[QUOTE] Quite boring, actually. I tried it just on power without the clutch and nuffink happened. I then tried it as you suggested, 20mph, clutch in, full throttle, clutch out, just some quick accelleration and then it hits the rev limiter. Also tried it @ 30 in second gear. I then went up a hill and tried the same thing in first and the front end went very light for about half a second but I didn't notice any upward motion. Too many pies?[/QUOTE] Ask Champ for a go on his 10R and try the same technique. I'd let you use mine but the air in the tyres has gone a bit stale and I'm worried it might not happen for you.