How to ride faster and safer

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Phil Scott, Apr 1, 2006.

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    Phil Scott Guest

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    Have someone time you on a very short circuit even a 5 or 10
    second circuit. 30 seconds max.

    Have the person flash you a finger count each time you pass
    them. For that you need a stop watch that resets with a
    single button push.... then put the timing marker a few
    seconds ahead of where the timer guy is standing... you need a
    big stop watch that you can read fast.

    If you did a 12 seconds that lap, the timer holds up 2
    fingers... 13 seconds would be 3 fingers. Thats quick. it
    has to be or its no good,

    The rider needs instant feed back on *each lap.


    The magic secret is .... **do not attempt to ride fast**...
    attempt to ride slowly, but with absolute perfect control...
    slowly but with perfect control...always feeling perfectly
    safe but never ever slower than that...but never ever faster
    than what feels totally safe.....whatever feels safe is the
    speed you ride... if it feels less than perfect control and
    perfectly safe you are messing up...slow it down or
    whatever...strive for perfect control 100% of the time.


    If you attempt to ride fast with only enough control to keep
    from crashing you will learn how to ride out of control....
    out of control is not fast. and its dangerous.

    If its dangerous you will break something, your leg or
    whatever, then you don't get practice.... none of that works,


    Control works.

    You will end up like Alex Jorgenson, winning the Sacramento
    mile... way beyond the bleeding limits... the fastest and the
    safest... more or less :)

    Alex is the first pic
    http://www.rotax.net/photo_gallery.htm

    For some reason many of the worlds fastest racers, later
    turning to road racing came from the same track in Lodi calif.
    Lodi Cycle bowl... Jorgenson (first pic) and Kenny Roberts,
    most of the greats have spent time on that track... another
    great track, and a league more advanced was Ascot Park in LA..
    one hell of a nasty proposition, a banked dirt oval, with a
    high jump at 70 mph or so landing in the middle of a tight
    left... then onto a very very fast straight into the banked
    sweeper...fearsome even to watch when the hot two strokes came
    onto the scene (a few years after my time)..... it was simply
    blood curdling.

    ****

    I was with the world famous race car driver of the 50's and
    50's Jack Gordon when he passed away at age 89... (he
    sponsored my brothers sprint car right to the end).

    I asked Jack for advice. Much of that is reflected in what I
    had learned myself also, what I had not learned and what he
    told me at the end was 'race the track, get a stable groove on
    the track, develop several grooves so you can switch to them
    to get around other riders, ... and *never race the other
    riders*.... that was the key, he emphased that. Jack was
    earning millions a year on race tracks world wide when that
    was a lot of money so he knew what it took...and thats what it
    took.


    If you race the other riders you will be riding over your
    head, or on a slower line or a line not compatible with your
    most stable path around the track.... yes could win that
    way...but will be unsafe... then you get hurt... you loose the
    edge etc.

    The gentle reader can thank Jack for that...

    Here are the flat tracking pics again.... this is where most
    of the best learned how to ride.

    I tried for years to learn to do a feet up slide...no
    luck..two broken legs. 2 hours by accident with a guy timing
    me, and I was sliding feet up on the pegs, 2 hours... that
    was at 40 to 50 mph though.

    Below Alex is sliding sideways at 120 or 130 mph... most never
    get that good, it took Alex 20 years.


    A 17 year old young lady, Jennifer Snyder was hired by the HD
    factorys Willy (madman) Davidson to be a factory rider...thats
    completely unheard of...she is that good.


    (I met willie on Molekai, in 1982, in his madman days,,then
    later at the Aneheim convention center lurking around the HD
    exhibit in disguise... the HD team had fixed her up with an HD
    flat tracking frame but with a 600cc Rotax motor)

    she rode sliding sideways between world class pro's twice her
    age and with 20 times her experience..... until she clipped
    the guard rail at Springfield in 2001 or so.... and broke half
    the bones in her body and her throttle hand, which she used to
    hold the throttle wide open as she tried to recover.

    Jen snyder when she was not wearing her leathers, wore a
    cotton and lace sun dress in the pits.

    So how long did that take her? A few years. Her daddy built
    her a half mile and quarter mile dirt oval in their back yard
    in Texas.

    He probably told her, don't strive for speed...strive for
    perfect control..but I dont know for sure.... she had perfect
    control though.

    She did not gain that skill riding over her head...she got it
    riding a little slower than she could have, but with perfect
    control........ poetry in motion.

    Fascinating isnt it?

    http://www.rotax.net/photo_gallery.htm

    We hopes this link woiks
    http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=9053
     
    Phil Scott, Apr 1, 2006
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    jb Guest

    The secret is when it's slipping, think about a downshift.
     
    jb, Apr 1, 2006
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    Phil Scott Guest

    thats clueless jb
     
    Phil Scott, Apr 1, 2006
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    Bryan Guest

    No you are not the only one.

    Bryan
     
    Bryan, Apr 1, 2006
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    Bram Stolk Guest

    Bram Stolk, Apr 1, 2006
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  6. Really Filbert? Then you two sound like a match made in heaven! Or whatever
    the Scientology equivalent is.
     
    Troy the Troll, Apr 1, 2006
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    pablo Guest

    Simple, classic, light... any specs with that? Looks lovely.
     
    pablo, Apr 1, 2006
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    pablo Guest

    I like the concept, but do they sell kevlar pants with that exhaust pipe? I
    am also into just slightly forward, but mostly upright riding positions
    these days.
     
    pablo, Apr 1, 2006
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    Phil Scott Guest

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    Phil Scott
    Ideas are bullet proof.
    just go to the mothah web site www.rotax.net or .com if that
    isnt it. those bikes are built now only for the track, he
    says 'no play bikes' now. about 20,000 dollars assembled
    with tires. 15,000 not assembled, and no tires, chain or
    sprockets etc. just the frame, forks, motor, tank and seat.

    The rotax motor version can be had with a specially built head
    that takes the 600cc single configuration to 100 hp. 2500
    extra.

    those are the best in the world though, Woods has won more pro
    flat track races and nationals than any other builder.



    www.atkUSA.com will sell a bike that runs on the same
    tracks by a few of the nations top 100 pro's, that win
    occasionally for about 8,000 dollars... its 30 lbs heavier in
    the rotax version, Add 3,000 dollars if you want the 100hp
    version in the rotax... these can be licensed for the street
    if you see the right dealer (A and A Auto in redway Calif for
    instance).

    The yz450 yamaha version though is 200 lbs.



    Or.... you can go to any AMA Sportsmans class event, and claim
    any bike that anyone put on the track for $10,000 (they do
    that so that no one enters a sportsmans event with a 20k
    racer)... or you can be less agressive and just offer to buy
    someones bike at the end of the day or season or whatever.

    You could post an ad to 'cylcle news' for someones old race
    bike (most guys build a new one every year or two), and most
    in the expert class will rebuild the motor before they put it
    on the market


    Custom builts you know can be licensed ...there are laws that
    allow this for small factories and owners that build less than
    50 a year (thats how the ATK can be registered)... thats how
    hot rods with custom frames and fiberglass bodies and home
    built engines get registered also... they just have to pass
    smog or whatever.



    Phil Scott
     
    Phil Scott, Apr 1, 2006
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