How to burn a lot of petrol and nearly gas yourself

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. Start up all four hibernating bikes in the same garage.

    Ducati - well, I was out on that over Christmas, so it's had a bit of
    use. It doesn't like cold weather at all, but it fired up OK.

    Street Trip: fired instantly, despite not having been used for nearly
    three months and settled down happily.

    K1100: a tad slow on the starter, but no problems. Gave the fast idle
    lever a little tweak so it was turning over at just under 2k rpm.

    400 Four: hasn't been used since October, at least. Turned it over on
    the kick and then hit the starter button. Spun but only seemed to be
    catching on one pot. Remembered that it's a bit sensitive to choke,
    backed the choke off a bit and it came up too. Twiddled the idle speed
    adjuster for a fast idle of 2500rpm.

    Exited the garage, coughing a bit, and left them all for 20 minutes,
    checking the temp gauge on the Triumph and the BMW, and feeling the
    engine cases on the other two. Gave them all some good blips of the
    throttle and some healthy revs just in case they felt like oiling up.

    When they were all nice and hot, shut them down and put them back under
    their dust sheets. And that's it for the next fortnight, as Chile
    beckons tomorrow. Amazingly, BA seems to be getting its flights out to
    South America and back, but we're expecting delays.

    But blimey, this winter is complicating biking a bit.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 10, 2010
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    Nige Guest

    I did the same myself yesterday with the trannie & R1.

    I nearly choked to death too :)

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    Nige,

    BMW K1200S
    Honda Transalp XL600V
    Yamaha R1
    Range Rover Vogue
     
    Nige, Jan 10, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    Why?

    I've not turned the ZRX over since november, or the 10R over since
    sometime before that. They get swapped over on the optimate about
    every 6 weeks or so, and that'll be fine until spring.
     
    ginge, Jan 10, 2010
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    Vass Guest

    my R1 is up on both paddock stands, tyres partly deflated,[1] liberal oiling
    where necessary,
    blanket and optimate.
    [1] some idea i read somewhere, might even have been here.
     
    Vass, Jan 10, 2010
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    Nige Guest

    Mines blathered in GT85 & I meam blathered.

    That stuff is fucking magic.

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    Nige,

    BMW K1200S
    Honda Transalp XL600V
    Yamaha R1
    Range Rover Vogue
     
    Nige, Jan 10, 2010
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  6. Well, the Triumph and BMW would probably be fine, but the Ducati
    definitely gets a bit cranky in the cold. A fighting fit battery makes
    no difference.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 10, 2010
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Our second Thunderace was like that. If left too long (several months)
    it needed a squirt of oil in the cylinders to get enough compression
    to fire.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jan 10, 2010
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    crn Guest

    Similar exercise a few days before xmas.
    The scoot does not hibernate, it gets used several times per week.
    GS500 took a while to fire, should have turned the fuel tap to prime.
    400 Four fired up just fine.
    Bantam decided to be plain bloody obstinate, jumpleaded the flattery
    from the GS500 and it fired eventually after much kicking and cussing.

    Removed all 3 batteries and brought them home for some charge, as
    expected the Bantam battery[1] is fucked. The other 2 will get regular
    charging attention until the bikes are needed.

    [1]Sealed 7ah Gell type removed from a dud UPS of dubious age so no
    great surprise, it just happened to be looking for a home when I
    converted the Bantam to 12v. Money will be spent on an appropriate
    Varta.
     
    crn, Jan 10, 2010
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    crn Guest

    Try starting a D14 Bantam in cold weather, they are obstinate bastards
    at the best of times.
     
    crn, Jan 10, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    A sin I tell you!
     
    Hog, Jan 10, 2010
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    Ben Guest

    The GSXR didn't get turned over or put on an Optimate for 5 months
    over last Winter and started first push of the button in the Spring.

    I fully expect it to be the same this Spring.
     
    Ben, Jan 10, 2010
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    YTC#1 Guest

    Makes note of location with nicely warmed up, fueled up bikes..... now ,
    where did you say you keep the keys ?
    :)
     
    YTC#1, Jan 10, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    That's my understanding. I drain the carbs (I also drain the tanks, but
    that's only because I put the petrol in the machine that's running).

    I charge the batteries and check the tyres every so often and that's it.

    If I take one out it's a proper run (20+ miles) to get it hot but TBH if
    I do take one out it's to actually use it.
     
    sweller, Jan 10, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    Never had a problem with my Bantam or my 125/150 MZs (the Bantam had the
    same engine as the MZs).

    So I'd suggest there's something wrong with it.
     
    sweller, Jan 10, 2010
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    YTC#1 Guest

    Some bikes "just need it", the Duke used to be a bastard if not run every
    couple of weeks.

    So, now I just do all bikes out of habit.
     
    YTC#1, Jan 10, 2010
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    crn Guest

    No, the 175cc D14 is famous for its unwillingness to start. The 125 and
    150 models were fine, and the starting issues were (almost) fixed in
    the later D175s with the vertical spark plug. Very carefull ignition
    timing is a great help but they can still be obstinate especially in
    cold weather. Fitting 2 head gaskets to reduce the compression is
    also said to help, I have not tried that yet.
     
    crn, Jan 10, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    "I'd suggest there's something wrong with it".
     
    sweller, Jan 10, 2010
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    Buzby Guest


    " "
     
    Buzby, Jan 11, 2010
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    CT Guest

    *ding*

    My "motorcycle over-wintering preparation" has been remarkably similar
    for the past 18 years[1]:

    Step 1: Park it in the garage.
    Step 2: There is no step 2.

    The preparation for riding several months later is to put it on the
    Optimate for a few days beforehand, kick the tyres, possibly check
    chain but usually not. Ride.


    [1] And that's with a grand total of four bikes, Nige!
     
    CT, Jan 11, 2010
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    Buzby Guest

    Never had a starting problem with my D14/4.

    It did catch fire a couple of times though . . . . .
     
    Buzby, Jan 11, 2010
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