how to beat cameras?

From and article in The Age:
"The most likely cause of false speeds were false "inputs" - right from
the start. Trucks can set off false readings through "seismic
vibrations" that can mistakenly set off the piezo sensors. Badly worn
car suspension can cause wheels to bounce and momentarily lose contact
with the road surface, confusing the readings. "

Seems to me that if you wheelie over the first sensor, and drop it down
before the last one...

Zebee
- who can't test it, shaft drive bike.

 

Other way round. Front wheel triggers first sensor, wheely some time before
third. That way the front wheel sets off the first sensor early, and the
back wheel comes along later to set off the next one. If you lift the wheel
somewhere between the first and last sensor, the readings (1 - 2 against
2 - 3) will be different and the camera won't trigger.

The spacing is 1.51 metres, so you'd have to be careful. if your front
wheel hits the second sensor before the back wheel has set off the first, it
would simply use the impulses from the back wheel. <ping>

Moike

 

Or like the Europeans seem to be doing in largeish numbers, destroy the
fucking cameras

 

Haven't tried it, but the sensors are laid within cut grooves in the road.
Tar is used to seal the grooves after installation. Can't one just drill into
the grooves through the cables? You only need to take out one cable to make
the sensor array useless.

A lot easier to carry a rechargable drill with a long bit rather than a tyre
and fuel as they're doing in the UK...

 

Or a petrol powered stone cutter, the chainsaw type ones. A little more
imposing, but I think it'd do the trick, plus, you'de look like a
professional if you were there with a yellow/organge vest at the time.
That'l **** em...

Cam

 

On 14/11/03 7:11 PM, in article

Let us know how you go.

 

Just a 4 inch nail and a hammer will do it (balacava recommended)

 

With a heavy length of steel tubing.

 

Might be better if you didn't actually we do occasionally have coppers on this
forum

JL

 

Stay below the posted limit.

You can bitch and moan all you like about revenue raisers and all that crap
but at the end of the day we all know what the limits are and we all know
what we risk every time we go over them. As one of the head honcho coppers
said over here "If you don't want to add to the revenue then don't go past
the limits posted."

I wonder what the states would do for revenue if everyone stayed within the
limit for a while.
--
Deevo

Geraldton
WA, The Nanny State (® Corks)
http://members.westnet.com.au/mckenzie

 

Lower the limit\tolerance further...

Doug Cox.
Work to ride, Ride to work...

 

On 15/11/03 7:44 AM, in article

I'd think it'd be worth the coppers while. Understanding how things work
and all.

Hammo

Fugg off you Pikachu keyring holding blueshirt!!

 

Heard of 50 KPH town limits, thats what they will do.
MicK Chester
ZX12

 

Interesting you should say that.
The cameras are run by the RTA not Police and I have heard some
interesting (unoffical) comments from them about camera sitings.

 

how about a powerful electromagnet that alternates magnetic field strength?

assuming its a magnetic based system.

 

and I read it on the internet so it MUST be true.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

Encourage more people to drink beer and smoke cigarettes.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

Do what they did in Vic - drop the tolerance to 2K (which forces everyone to
drive 5K under the limit to ensure they don't creep over)

JL

 

Yes I know, but it's the police who will investigate the incident when the
cameras have been damaged (I forget the offence now but something like malicious
damage), the RTA have neither the ability to do an investigation nor the legal
right to question people ( they can of course do an investigation if they wish,
but the police are trained at that sort of thing, or at least they're supposed
to be)

JL

 

Actually it doesn't. The rate of detection of vehicles exceeding the speed
limit has not changed since tolerances were lowered. Drivers are still
driving at the same speeds they were when speed cameras were operating with a
10% tolerance. The YTD road toll for 2003 is 50 less than 2002. The number
of pedestrians, bicyclists and motorcyclists (including pillions) killed has
reduced by more than 30% for each of these road user groups. The number of
vehicle passengers (not including pillions) killed has reduced by 18%. The
number of vehicle drivers killed has reduced by 1%. The government claims
road toll is 50 fewer than last year because of speed cameras. The data shows
that the drivers of vehicles not including motorcycles - 97% of the total
vehicle fleet- are killing themselves at the same rate as they have done
every year for the past 5 years. In fact you'd expect that safer cars and
modernization of the total fleet in general would account for a greater than
1% reduction in the number of drivers killed... so despite 50 fewer deaths,
the drivers of vehicles (not including motorcycles) are probably now dying on
the roads at an accelerated rate.. apologies for the pun.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX