How speed limited is "100 speed limited"

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by sanbar, Jun 17, 2005.

  1. Oh, oh, Can I tell you about when I was doing engineering and using
    theodolites and the like.......?

    Hammo




     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Jun 19, 2005
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  2. sanbar

    GB Guest

    Well, even if there is a stepper motor in there, there's still the
    question of coming up with an accurate way to come up with a position
    to turn the stepper to.

    Repeatability is one thing - something that should be very easy with
    a stepper motor (and more difficult with other 'analogue' techniques).
    Accuracy is another entirely different ball game.

    A lack of accuracy in the measuring bit, and the most accurate/
    repeatable meter mechanism in the world is no good. A lack of
    repeatability in the measuring bit is probably even more worserer.

    GB
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  3. sanbar

    GB Guest

    Ah, ok, if we're talking about stuff like that, then yeah, go for
    your life, run the dumb bastards over - I'll hold 'em down for you
    if you like!


    Er, now I think you ought to be grateful that they've bothered to
    put their "thank-you for letting me in" light on *before* they've
    assumed their god-given right of way!


    Amen brother!



    On a similar theme, I pulled the Thunderace to bits and found a
    space big enough to fit twin air horns the weekend before last.
    The horns are good - cars that decide to help themselves to your
    space **** off back to where they came from, even managed a look
    of sheer terror (priceless!) on the face of a dopey woman who
    flicked a cab door open in front of me in the city on Friday!
    Driving the car around today though, there were an inordinate
    number of morons out and about, and damn I missed those horns!


    GB, horny.
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  4. sanbar

    GB Guest

    GPS is particularly bad at knowing where it is (with any degree of
    accuracy) when its standing still or moving slowly. When you're
    moving relatively quickly, its much easierer to come up with good
    speed and direction figures, and so accuracy will improve.

    I think that, in principle, what you're saying about going around
    corners must be right, but if you're using the GPSr to check the
    speedo, I'd like to think that was happening in a straight line
    ad a reasonably constant rate of knots.

    That said, it's important to note that pretty much all modern GPSr's
    are 12 channel jobbies - means they can tune 12 different
    satellites simultaneously - but they only need four satellites
    to get a position fix (I'm not sure why they need the fourth,
    but they do - might be the altitude thing, but then they're notoriously
    bad at altitude, being designed for position-at-sea-level performance).
    Accuracy improves with each extra satellite it manages to tune, and
    in my experience, 7-9 satellites at once is typical, giving a nominal
    positional accuracy of 3-4 metres.

    The things typically *report* their position (or update other
    numbers like speed, direction, etc) every second. I'm not sure
    that they only *know* those numbers once per second though. I'd
    expect that the numbers that they deliver once per second are
    aggregates. I don't *know* but.


    GB, geek.
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  5. You certainly can. Go for it.
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    Peter Cremasco, Jun 19, 2005
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  6. sanbar

    G-S Guest

    I don't know... I'm not tasmanian so I don't have a front sprocket :)


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 19, 2005
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  7. sanbar

    G-S Guest

    I wouldn't argue with that... I do find it hard to understand how the
    same organisation can end up with 2 such different cultures around thier
    vehicles though!

    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 19, 2005
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  8. sanbar

    sharkey Guest

    Eh? It's very bad at knowing which way it's pointing, but
    it knows where it is just fine. And what time it is.

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jun 20, 2005
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  9. Your reflexes will be razor sharp.

    Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Jun 20, 2005
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  10. sanbar

    GB Guest

    It knows where it is more betterer when it's moving. It's
    pretty good at knowing where it is when it's in the same place
    it was before.

    It's *great* at knowing what time it is. It knows what time
    it is to within a poofteenth of a what, whether its moving or
    not!

    GB
     
    GB, Jun 20, 2005
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  11. That's what the Sigma Sport Targa pushbike speed computer is for :)

    Mark.
     
    Mark Hutchison, Jun 20, 2005
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  12. sanbar

    sharkey Guest

    Well, you said that before. But why? Nothing I know about GPS,
    and nothing I've seen using one, suggests that this is true.

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jun 20, 2005
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  13. sanbar

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    And that's important to you? As long as my watch is within five or ten
    minutes, it's near enough for me. Of course, if I don't have an urgent
    appointment, Tuesday is near enough.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jun 21, 2005
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  14. sanbar

    GB Guest

    Using them for Geocaching, (http://geocaching.com/) when you're
    trying to push the receiver to the limits of its accuracy, I find
    that making several moving passes past the point where the goodies
    apparently works more betterer. If you only care about where you
    are to within, say, 25 metres, it wouldn't be an issue.

    GB
     
    GB, Jun 21, 2005
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  15. The one in the car in Germany was a bit confused when we were barrelling
    down the autobahn. Mind you, the signs were a bit blurry too.
     
    Pisshead Pete, Jun 21, 2005
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  16. sanbar

    Moike Guest

    <applause>

    Moike
     
    Moike, Jun 22, 2005
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  17. sanbar

    sharkey Guest

    Looking like Clem, you've got to be able to take a joke!

    -----sharks doherty
     
    sharkey, Jun 22, 2005
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  18. sanbar

    Jason Guest

    Most use a voice coil, the same as a hard-disk.
    They are as accurate as the manufacturers want them to be, and there's no
    variation between speedo units, but since each tyre has a different
    circumference (particularly as they wear), and the speedo pickups are from
    the final cog in the gearbox, your speed gets more and more optimistic as
    your tyre wears out :)

    It's a common trick in the UK for cabbies to overinflate their tyres when
    they go to have their meters calibrated, then they put them back to normal
    to make them register in their favour. Of course, I'm sure they wouldn't do
    that here in Australia, as it's unsporting :)

    Cheers,
    Jason
     
    Jason, Jun 25, 2005
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