How speed limited is "100 speed limited"

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by sanbar, Jun 17, 2005.

  1. sanbar

    G-S Guest

    Nope... but most people assume that... which is why they go "You @#$%@#$
    my car/bike speedo is accurate!" "Your bus/truck was doing almost 110!"

    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 18, 2005
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  2. sanbar

    sharkey Guest

    Ah, well. Any idea how the speedo needle is positioned, assuming
    it has one?

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jun 18, 2005
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  3. Can ye work this magical riddle?

    Have ye heard of the magical.....

    Hammo (magnets of course, the prevent arse cancer...)
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Jun 18, 2005
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  4. sanbar

    G-S Guest

    It's easier (and pretty cheap) to make an accurate oddomoter, it's exxy
    to make accurate speedos...


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 18, 2005
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  5. sanbar

    G-S Guest

    Yah, tyres are another reason... they can make a few % difference even
    within the same size rating.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 18, 2005
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  6. sanbar

    GB Guest

    Actually, unless my GPS is inaccurate, my car speedo is.

    Haven't gotten around to finding the GPS and taking it for a ride
    on the yzf as yet. The ZZR250 read quite a bit over actual speed
    though.

    GB
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  7. sanbar

    GB Guest

    I've often wondered if one can assume that the speed reading is
    accurate on the strength of the odometer performance, or vice
    versa.

    GB
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  8. sanbar

    GB Guest

    A stepper motor is one way of positioing a needle in a completely
    electronic setup - might be more expensive than the average speedo
    manufacturer wants to go for though.

    A computer floppy disc drive costs ten bucks retail, so the stepper
    motor in that is, as one of the more expensive components in a fdd,
    probably fifty cents at manufacturing time. The same stepper would
    work fine (or probably even be overkill) in a speedo, but that
    fifty cents is getting a bit pricey for a component in a mass
    produced item like a speedo!

    GB
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  9. sanbar

    GB Guest

    Bollocks. A very occasional punter might very occasionally
    stick the GPS up where he can see it to get a feel for how
    well the speedo works, but every day, I think not.

    No its not.

    You'd make a good Sydney Buses driver - know how to send an SMS
    message on a telephone while driving?

    GB (the real GB)
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  10. sanbar

    GB Guest

    That's interesting commentary, specially since I have a long held
    (from repeated bad experiences) perception that auspost drivers are
    the most aggressive drivers out there, particularly with the pantechs
    they use in metropolitan and residential areas.

    (On the open road, its Toll Logistics that seem to push the hardest,
    though perhaps the new 'customer pays' laws will help slow those
    mad fuckers down a bit).

    Typical 'professional' driver's attitude methinks.


    (I'm a strong supporter of the death penalty for short haul metropolitan
    bus drivers - if they express a desire for employment as a bus driver, just
    shoot them! I'd have no problem with the same being applied to metropolitan
    auspost drivers - they're every bit as barking mad IME)


    GB
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  11. sanbar

    GB Guest

    IME, Aus Post are *never* a problem on the open road. It's around
    town that they're complete fucking nutters.

    GB
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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  12. sanbar

    Bill_h Guest

    Yet with the Sprint, despite the woefully optomistic speedo, the
    odometer is within 1% accuracy. I haven't noticed any particular
    difference with different tyres (020s or MEZ4s) although I haven't
    been particulary rigourous in checking accuracy (occasional checks
    using line marked roads).

    cheers,

    Bill_h

    (remove the nospam bit for email)
     
    Bill_h, Jun 19, 2005
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  13. sanbar

    Bill_h Guest

    That should be optimistic. Don't you love being your own spilling
    nazi? :)

    Bill_h

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    Bill_h, Jun 19, 2005
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  14. sanbar

    sharkey Guest

    Well, perzactly. Is that what they use? If they do, I've got no
    problem believing that the speedo is within 1%. If they're using
    a servo, less so. If they're driving a moving-coil meter or
    something, much less so!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jun 19, 2005
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  15. sanbar

    Robert Guest

    You won't get an argument from me on that one.
    That is one of the reasons why I think the "pantechs" as you call them
    are being fitted with data loggers.
    But it's to long a story to go into in this forum and I like my
    employment :p
    Also have a look at baker and milk drivers going through red light
    arrows on their rounds
    Probably, but it's nice to teach tin tops a lesson about trucks using
    2 lanes to make turns when they try and come in underneath you.
    Or when they put on an indicator and think it gives them right of way
    etc.
    The list is long and has been done to death in forums like this.

    Lets face it we are preaching to the converted in newsgroups like
    this.

    It's also payback for stuff they do to me when I'm on the bike :)
     
    Robert, Jun 19, 2005
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  16. sanbar

    Uncle Bully Guest

    Yeah but how do you know how far 1km is? Wouldn't happen to be the same
    inaccurate speedo/odo would it?
     
    Uncle Bully, Jun 19, 2005
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  17. sanbar

    John Littler Guest

    They can be noticeably different in size even within the same brand and
    size rating. The Pilot Sports on the TRX in 120/60/17 were noticeably
    smaller to the eye to the same size tyre in Macadam - both are Michelin.
    Had two TRXs parked outside Northside (mine and one they had for sale),
    I did a double take when I picked the bike up if it wasn't that you
    can't buy a lower profile than 60 I would have though Michelin had
    mislabelled the Pilot.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Jun 19, 2005
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  18. sanbar

    smack Guest

    Yah, tyres are another reason... they can make a few % difference even

    but, what if you don 't oil your front sprocket?
     
    smack, Jun 19, 2005
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  19. Well, I thought so, but apparently I thought wrong.

    Anyway - I wanna know what makes people so sure that the GPS is
    accurate, seeing as how they take a reading every one second and each
    point can be out by +/- 5 metres. Surely, going around a corner (ie: not
    a straight line) the GPS would have a high probability of reading a
    smaller distance than that traveled - and hence record a lower speed.

    ---
    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s (gone on to better and brighter things - I hope)
    '87 BMW K100RT (write-off)
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

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    Peter Cremasco, Jun 19, 2005
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  20. sanbar

    GB Guest

    That will screw up the jetting in your carbies.

    GB
     
    GB, Jun 19, 2005
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