How have rising fuel prices changed your behaviour?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Mar 22, 2008.

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    wessie Guest

    No

    I routinely switch off my PC & ADSL modem at night. With work, I can be
    away for periods of 48 hours at a time too. Doesn't seem to make any
    difference to the service from Virgin via a BT line.

    http://www.speedtest.net/ consistently reports a line speed of around
    4200kbps
     
    wessie, Mar 23, 2008
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    Fr Jack Guest

    Hokay...

    My P-reg 885cc carburettor-equipped Tiger would give 45 mpg, mixed
    riding (generally gunning it away from the lights and lots of
    stop-start traffic). It wouldn't improve much on a run, usually
    because I would sit at 85-plus and I have the aerodynamic properties
    of a barn.

    I once got it down to 40mpg, when I was late for a ferry and took a
    risk and did the M20 at 100 to 120.

    The light usually went on at 150 to 160 miles, when it would take 15
    or 16 litres. As it had a 25 litre tank, I frequently left it until I
    had 200 miles showing, and still had plenty left.

    I did test the range to empty and got 245, without trying.

    If that bike had better wind protection and belt or shaft drive, I
    doubt I would have parted with it.
     
    Fr Jack, Mar 23, 2008
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    ??? servos ????
     
    Pip Luscher, Mar 23, 2008
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    SteveH Guest

    Service station, aka petrol station, I reckon....
     
    SteveH, Mar 23, 2008
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    Tim Guest

    My T-reg 885-FI one managed 206 miles two-up with luggage and was
    running on vapour.
     
    Tim, Mar 23, 2008
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    Anne Jackson Guest

    I'm about to bugger off again, _but_ I was given a present of a bottle
    of Chateau Musar '79 recently - if you should find yourself in this
    neck of the woods within the next wee while... ;-)
     
    Anne Jackson, Mar 23, 2008
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:38:28 +0000, Paul Corfield

    [of public transport]
    Well, I'm sure you're right. I do use trains but only rarely, and even
    then only for things like nights out in a city.

    Commuting by public transport for me is, I'm sure, technically
    possible but would be an utter nightmare. 24 miles to a destination
    that's the *other* side of Cambridge and not in any town or village.

    Given that I have a variety of vehicles that are taxed, insured, MOT'd
    and quitely depreciating even as I type, I have no incentive
    whatsoever to walk in the wind and rain to wait in some bus or train
    shelter that smells of piss, in order to then pay yet more and take a
    slow, boring journey that goes only part way to where I want to be.

    If one lives in a city then it's OK. I lived in Hong Kong for several
    years and the public transport system was generally quite satisfactory
    apart from the fact that one spent a lot of time standing because the
    buses were so crowded. The weather was warmer, so standing around
    waiting wasn't quite so unpleasant, provided it was dry.
     
    Pip Luscher, Mar 23, 2008
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Ah, of course.
     
    Pip Luscher, Mar 23, 2008
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    Catman Guest

    Indeed, I am still stunned by quite how much worse that seems than mine.
    I thought my MPG was shit. (48 if the computer is to be believed). Both
    the Triple and the Bandit cost virtually exactly the same in fuel for
    that run as the Sprint. Which struck me as odd.

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    Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
    Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
    116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, Mar 23, 2008
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    Snowleopard Guest

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:38:28 +0000, Paul Corfield
    As Champ said - it doesn't go anywhere I want to go. I would have to
    walk 20 minutes into town, or catch a bus there (20 mins on schedule),
    to catch a bus to go horse riding every weekend. It takes me 20
    minutes to drive there on a Sunday morning, with no waiting around
    when I'm cold and soaked to the skin.

    There genuinely isn't anywhere I want to go that public transport can
    get me to quicker, cheaper or more easily than the car. The only
    places where it goes where I want (to work) I would prefer to walk or
    cycle.
    Not round here they aren't. They're forever chopping bus services
    because "not enough people use them". Of course the big problem is
    that flexible working culture means that people don't all want to get
    to their employers for 9am, they want to get there from 7am onwards.
    That dilutes the numbers. They don't put smaller vehicles on, though,
    they just do away with them when the subsidies end. And then 100 or
    more people who used to use the park'n'ride and the service connected
    to it have to start driving into town again.

    I have a non-driving friend who lives in Stroud (where I have recently
    been considering moving to). It takes her two bus journeys and over 90
    minutes to get to work. She's now joined a car sharing deal and it
    takes her about 30 minutes.

    Lots of people I work with choose to live somewhere they can afford a
    home. Unfortunately that usually means they also get shitty public
    transport.
    I'm not afraid to say it.

    I don't want to use something that makes me feel sick, takes twice as
    long and isn't flexible.

    I used to use public transport when I lived in Enfield. It was fine
    there. Frequent, cheap, whatever. If I still lived there, I wouldn't
    have a car.
     
    Snowleopard, Mar 23, 2008
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    Snowleopard Guest

    On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:49:35 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid"
    I expect it will tone them, but I find horse riding helps with the
    grip side. Just as well, or I'd be posting this from A&E 8~/
     
    Snowleopard, Mar 23, 2008
  12. As I said the PC, cordless phone and the broad band router are powered
    from a non switch feed. ie: they are left on all the time.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Mar 23, 2008
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    Fr Jack Guest

    I'll say it.

    2 GBP to travel 2 miles and take 20 minutes on a clear road doing it
    is a joke - and there have been 5 fare rises since!. (No way I was
    walking in the rain that was falling, that day!)

    The vehicles are genuinely filthy inside - some of the seats look like
    they were shat on and the cleaning process was to scrape the worst off
    and leave it to dry. The seats also seem to be designed to accommodate
    small children only and the heating seems to be on "roast in the pit
    of hell", while the windows are jammed shut.

    The ride quality is appalling. I get seasick, FFS!

    The drivers seem to be trained to shove their foot hard to the floor,
    when accelerating (never letting people reach a seat), then hammer on
    the brake about a yard from the stop.

    There is nowhere I want to go to that I can't reach quicker and
    cheaper (by a factor of at least 3) by using my car or bike - that
    includes the cost of consumables, tax, insurance, etc.
     
    Fr Jack, Mar 23, 2008
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    Catman Guest

    BGN wrote:

    Saves me the trouble :)
    Why? The Sprint is a big bike. I only wish it was a *smidge* bigger. Bit
    longer to the bars, bit longer to the pegs. FWIW my panniers weigh a
    fair old chunk as well, especially when full of laptop, lunch, phones
    etc etc. And of course there is my (currently annoyingly) 16 stone bulk
    as well.


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    Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
    Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
    116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, Mar 23, 2008
  15. Back bone of the company I'll have you know!

    Anyway, it's the cleaners who bring them up. To be honest, we watch
    telly on the rare occasion we hit the messroom. Jeremy Kyle, etc...
     
    Sean Hamerton, Mar 23, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    Sarah commutes in to Bristol via the lovely First[1]Bus. The cost is £2.70
    each way[2], or about twice the cost in fuel of a journey by car, and takes
    between two and three times as long. The busses are ill-kempt and poorly
    maintained[3] - if they're maintained at all. The drivers appear unversed
    in the most basic rudiments of their profession[4], and even the regular
    ones seem not entirely familiar with their route. Busses are usually quite
    late, often considerably late, and only very rarely approach punctuality.
    There are also factors like extremes of temperature, filth, overcrowding.
    There's also some sort of change ticket scam going on at the moment - I'm
    not yet sure whether this is down to knavery or incompetence. And the
    ludicrous and expensive shenanigans at the bus station are a whole other
    story.

    This abysmal service is a significant factor in our current plans to move
    into Bristol.

    [1]or "Frist", according to a recent letter from them.
    [2]£27.00 for a 10-journey travelcard
    [3]I've travelled on one bus where the driver would stop every half-mile or
    so to abuse the emergency exit door, in a vain attempt to get the alarm
    hooter to shut up. This bus was still operating with the same fault several
    days later. Another bus collided with a tree branch, denting the roof and
    knocking the upstairs front window inwards (without breaking the glass).
    Months later, this bus was still operating with a little bit of bent tin
    screwed on to prevent the window falling any further into the bus.
    [4]The drivers seem to delight in attempting Alveston Hill in the highest
    gear possible, only deigning to change down when the engine is struggling on
    the brink of stalling.
     
    platypus, Mar 23, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    Surely you mean Londo?

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Mar 23, 2008
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    For drinks and a game of Roulette, presumably.
     
    Pip Luscher, Mar 23, 2008
  19. You haven't found top gear?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 24, 2008
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    Catman Guest

    Gets my vote :)

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    Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
    Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
    116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, Mar 24, 2008
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