Honda VF1000 ??

I know the mid 80s' VF1000 hondas dont have a good rep. but
can someone tell me if it was cam chains, tensioners,cams or all 3
that was the problem ?
Julian.

 

similar prob. that BMW is having ?
J the A.

 

From memory it was lack of hardening on the cam lobes.

Honda replaced lots of them.

Kind regards
Dave Milligan

 

Which BMW's?

 

The bad-rep bikes were the original VF750F's, which, like a number of
contemporary bikes (GT550's, GPz900's, GPz500S's are what I can think of
off the top of my head, but I'm a Kwakaphile), suffered from
poor-quality hardening on the cam bearing and lobe surfaces. The
difference was that, in the case of the VF750F, patchy QA compounded the
problems of an inadequate manufacturing process to make the failure
intervals shorter and the failures themselves more spectacular. To make
matters worse, Honda, already milking its rep as the far and away leader
in reliability, had hyped the liquid-cooled V-four engine into orbit
before its release. Thus, when large numbers of these revolutionary new
engines from the world's most stringent manufacturer started shredding
their top ends not long after the end of run-in, the disgrace was all
the greater.

The VF1000, which came out a year after, was much more like it.

 

Ah
so is the problem fixed now?
According to Jules he says the "problem they are having."

 

The release of the K1200S was postponed by a couple of weeks when an
excessive number of bodgy camshafts were found to have made their way
onto the parts shelves as the factory and its suppliers were winding up
for full volume production. BMW needed the time to rap a naughty
contractor over the knuckles.

From what I read
(http://www.motorcyclenews.com/nav?p...urceId=1332533&articleCategory=NEWS_NEW-BIKES),
the exact nature of the problem was unspecified. BMW even went so far as
to say that the problem was with a "...camshaft component", not the
camshafts themselves.

 

The new inline 1200 ones.

 

Which one? There are two.

IK,
losing patience with vague wankers who don't have the decency to try to
Google their own answers before bothering people who have better things
to do than placating someone's idle curiousity.

 

why did you bother to reply then ?
perhaps you should get a manager and stop handling yourself.
J the A.

 

Because I gave you the benefit of the doubt and didn't presume your
initital laconic query to be indicative of your being a vague wanker
without the decency to try Googling his own answers before bothering
people who have better things to do than placate someone's idle curiosity.

It's always disappointing to be let down after going out on a limb, but
at least the ambiguity's been cleared up.

 

"You look 'armless, hop in!"

Sprint.

 

Smee said....

According to the BMW Club of Vic's newsletter, and a blurb on the BMW
stand at the motorshow (this is the first Beemer that I've ever drooled
over, its cars notwithstanding), they should be here in June.

 

I did a Google but, as nearly always it led to a US site. I
foolishly thought that ,perhaps
a local owner or ex owner may be a better/quicker way of finding
out why these
bikes are unerachieving in second had value. I hav e a choice of
an early local bike or a
R model ( gear driven cams) in Brisbane.

 

I think it is basically because, even though those cam issues had been
resolved by the time the last of the VF750Fs were being built, the
damage to the reputation had been done and it has haunted them ever
since.

Cheers


Kevin Gleeson
Imagine It
West Hobart
Tasmania Australia
www.imagine-it.com.au

 

Wasn't it only on the VF750s?
Bummers
might be mistaken

 

The bikes aren't on the showroom floors for sale.. so it must be a current
problem. Literal week looks like it'll be just as long as harsh week.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

And one time he caught a fish *this* big...

Postman Pat

 

No, it also affected the VF1000's (one of my brothers had a VF1000 and
I had a VF750 for a while). From memory, there wasn't enough oil
getting to the cams, which was causing excessive wear on the cam
lobes. Honda made new parts to get more oil to the cams and had them
fitted at no cost to all affected models that went through Honda
workshops for servicing. My brother had the cams in his VF1000
replaced as part of this but the cams themselves weren't the actual
issue IIRC.

I bought my 750 used after all of this had blown over and it had been
given the replacement parts while the previous owner had it. I never
experienced any top end problems on my 750 (and I did a LOT of k's on
it).

 

I never had any probmes with my VF100F (cam chain) or VF1000R(gear drive
cams) I heard 2nd hand reports afterwards of problems with the 1000F (not
sure about the II)

--
Trevor S


"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."
-Albert Einstein