Honda sues Hongda

http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-11/18/content_282273.htm

Honda goes to court over motors
( 2003-11-18 01:05) (China Daily)


Japan's Honda Motor Co has brought legal action against two Chongqing-based
motorcycle companies alleged to have infringed on its trademark.

The first hearing was held yesterday at the Beijing No 2 Intermediate
People's Court with one of the accused, the Chongqing Lifan Motor Factory,
not being present.

The other defendant was the Chongqing Lifan Industrial Group and the two
companies are independent of each other, according to sources.

No decision was handed down at the close of proceedings yesterday and it is
not known when a ruling will be made.

Honda is asking for compensation from the two producers and a motor retailer
to the tune of more than 25 million yuan (US$3 million) for alleged economic
losses caused by trademark violations.

The plaintiff claims that motors produced by the two companies carry the
trademark "Hongda,'' which is only slightly different to "Honda'' and is
easily mistaken for the more famous brand.

Noting "Lifan'' is the group's trademark, Pang Zhengzhong, the lawyer
representing the Chongqing Lifan Industrial Group, claimed: "We have never
produced motors with the Hongda symbol, as accused.

"Furthermore, the motor used by Honda as proof (in court) was without a seal
and was not convincing,'' he told China Daily.

"Only one motor cannot prove that the group has produced some 200,000 such
motors, as it is alleged.

"As a famous domestic motor enterprise, there is no need for Lifan to
infringe on others' intellectual property rights (IPR).''The third
accused -- the Beijing Zili Ziqiang Motor Shop -- said in court at the start
of proceedings that since the two types motors were allegedly produced by
two independent entities, the case should not go ahead but be heard
separately.

The court did not accept the request and decided the trial should proceed.

IPR disputes in vehicle production are rising this year together with the
booming automobile market. For example, the first-ever lawsuit involving a
foreign auto manufacturer in China since the country's entry to the World
Trade Organization started in August, with Japan's Toyota suing Chinese car
manufacturer Geely for trademark infringement. But no verdict has so far
been reached.

 

How ironic is this, the WORLD leader in photography-engineering bringing
legal action for copying, what a hoot

Hope the Chinese tell them to go **** themselves, they don't believe in any
copyright laws

In any case Hongda would be VASTLY superior product anyway.....

CDIHL

 

How ironic is this, the WORLD leader in photography-engineering bringing

If they would have broken ANY laws, dont you think others would have
taken them to court?? You keep coming up with this stale arguement
that has no foundations... Yet when others copy Honda, you are first
to defend them... Your medication run out again? or were you not smart
enough to ever get on it.?

I hope Honda Crushes them to pieces, Honda should just buy them out
and ass **** each staff member.

what personal experience do you have in this Hatz?

Any?

 

Wait until they bring out Dongcati!
Clem

 

Hehehe...

Wait until they bring out Dongcati!
Clem

 

In NZ some scammer is making Moo-zukis. And Baa-ja scooters

 

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Thanks for showing us your Wang, alx.
--
Clem
[cynicism is all tool rampart]
~

units The car displacement ranging from 800cc to 1100 cc.

from 48cc to 250cc,Our products including: 1, Two-wheel

motorcycle Mini Car( or mini car for carrying goods and taking

engine(including crankcase, crankshaft connecting rod,

piston rings), frame, fuel tank, shock absorber, disk brake,

in many countries and area so as Asia, Africa and Latin

there. We would now like to market the motorcycles and spare

whether your company would be interested In acting as a

other your country? associates whomight also be

Chongqing YingGang motorcycle Factory

 

oh but it gets better!

This firm has patented a device to make hydraulic brakes spongy.

See new posting. I can see the concept catching on with motogp and superbike teams.

And Honda may introduce their own version.

New Fireblade for 2004, featuring an all new braking system, the Honda FSBS (*)....

(*) F*cking Shitty Brake System