Honda CM125

Hi All

My brother is rebuilding a Honda CM125 that he dismantled many years ago.
He labelled the wiring loom but now the labels have faded and he is not sure
where some of the wires should go. He has an Haynes manual but the diagram
is black and white, so is not clear to him what colours go where. Does
anyone know of where he can view a colour wiring diagram, or does anybody
have a CM125 who could answer his questions. I am hoping to introduce him
to "Newsgroups" so he can ask himself, in the future.
Many thanks for any help.

 

You might do better introducing your brother to the wiring colour
codes in the Haynes manual, which enable use of a black and white
diagram when referring to cloured wires.

 

Pip was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

They're smart, these Haynes people, aren't they?

 

"Reassembly is the reverse of removal"

Allegedly.

 

Is a colour version available?

My brother has recently purchased a new manual which has a black & white
diagram. Is this an old copy?

 

Pip was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

So the pingfuckit you've just spent an hour searching magically pops
out of the corner and slides back into place. Works for me[1].

[1] Might explain the rather high vehicular failure rate I'm
occasionally experiencing, though.

 

To be honest, I have only seen a couple of full-colour wiring diagrams
and they were both in manufacturer's own manuals.

Every Haynes manual I have seen has contained black and white wiring
diagrams of varying quality, completeness and usefulness. However,
every wiring diagram I've looked at has little tiny lettering on or
alongside each wire. This is a code, the key to which is supplied at
the base of the page or sometimes on the next page.

For example, "bk/gn" means "black wire with a green trace"
Or "bl/r", which means "blue wire with a red trace"

Am I making sense yet? Go check the diagram and its environs for a
code key and hopefully all will become clear.

I wouldn't think so.

 

enquirer was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

Probably, and you'll probably find that the colour wiring diagrams in
the new Haynes manuals[1] are rather useless as well.
On closer inspection of the B&W wiring diagram you'll find that the
colour codes are noted beside every cable. So get your brother brush
up his reading skills and reassembly should be the reversal of
disassembly.

Oh, and another thing - please have a look at the FAQ for this
newsgroup - it has a lot to say about the posting style in this
newsgroup. Please leave *some* context in when you're following up
someone else's post.

[1] I was going to make a snide remark about this until I noticed that
my brand new Haynes BoL for the 'umph has a *colour* wiring
diagram.

 

That would be fairly feckin' miraculous ime - if the valve retaining
collet could bestir itself from the bramble entanglement out the back
of the garage, levitate ten feet and hurtle back into place through
the neat hole it made through the asbestos roof ... I'd go and light a
candle. And pay for it too ;-)

No, that's just you, Timo. Tou have the reverse Midas touch, see -
everything you contact turns to shit, in short order.

 

Pip was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

Neither did I. I just figured I'll have a quick look before I make
myself look even more of a twat. Imagine my surprise when it turned
out to be true.

Mind ewe, the wiring diagrams these days are becoming rather useless
for tracking down anything worse than a chafed wire. For any
ignition-related problems one needs to drag a computer into the
garage....

 

Bloody 'ell. I didn't know that. All my BsoLs are old copies, then.

Humbug. (with black and white stripes)

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip

The Merde-ass touch.

 

Pip was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

Heh. The "dripping with sarcasm" part of my lines above seems to have
got stuck on my side of the wire.

Thanks for explaining my life to me, mate...

I still hope that I'll manage to break free of this eventually, but
judging by the way this is going atm I'll be arriving for my own
funeral on the back of an AA lorry because the undertaker's cage broke
down on the way to the cementary.

 

Hi <Bear mode> read the FAQ`s.

Then in the morning when I`m more sober I might put a complete colour wiring
diagram on my site and give you a link to it.......depends..is it a CM 125 C
between 1977-1983?

If not I wont bother scanning it.


--
Petel .
02 M2 Buell.
C90-ZZR.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/peteh1/website/index.html

 

What about fuel injection problems? Fuel feed problems? gearbox
problems? Speedometer problems?

 

The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

Why would you need a wiring diagram for gearbox problems?

 

I've got Haynes manuals for Dreams and Superdreams which predate the
CM125 by a bit, but are most definitely colour. The Haynes manuals for
my more elderly British bikes are b/w.

Unfortunately (in a way), we sold Dee's CM125 a few months ago, so I
can't be much help. I'd say it's worth looking for a Haynes manual
with a colour diagram though.

 

My Haynes manual for the CM125 printed in 1984 has a colour wiring diagram.
What do you want to know?.

 

The Haynes manuals for my MZs, BSAs, Guzzi and the other bikes are black
and white. TBH I've never seen colour diagrams in Haynes manuals. Car
or bike.

MZ factory manuals OTOH...
http://www.sweller.co.uk/sob/images/es-schem.jpg

 

Thus spake Pip unto the assembled multitudes:

Try owning a Vauxhall, where the wiring colour codes are marked with
German colour abbreviations, just to add a little extra adventure to
deciphering black & white wiring diagrams.