Honda Blackbird for Touring.

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Grump, Oct 15, 2005.

  1. Grump

    Grump Guest

    Hi all, my first post on this list...
    Have just retired my trusty BMW K75C for a new CBR 1100XX.
    While the Blackbird is ideal for a quick blast over short distances on the
    highway,
    as an older rider I find the weight on my arms very tiring on long trips &
    in slow traffic.
    Can anyone recommend or link me to a set of aftermarket handlebars that will
    allow for a more upright riding position please?
    Regards, Grump.
     
    Grump, Oct 15, 2005
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  2. I never had a problem with Blackbird's ride position, but then I've
    always owned sports bikes.

    Go faster - let the air hold you up :)

    Kevin Gleeson
    Imagine It
    West Hobart
    Tasmania Australia
    www.imagine-it.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Oct 15, 2005
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  3. Grump

    Grump Guest

    That works well on an open highway but not in heavy traffic or touring two
    up on dirt roads.
    I looked at buying a tourer at first but still prefer a lighter, more nimble
    sports bike for daily use having owned several Suzi GSXs before the K75.

    Also now that I'm a senior citizen, the arthritis from years of dirt bike
    competition get-offs has caught up with me.
    Guess I'm looking for a compromise between excitement & comfort...
    Regards, Grump.
     
    Grump, Oct 15, 2005
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Can't remember the details, but there is a bloke, someplace in
    Melbourne, who does handlebar re-arranging for bikes like the Blackbird.

    The set I had a try of, were on a VFR800, and they were beautifully
    made, and moved the grip up about an inch, and back just a wee bit.

    Maybe ask at the Ulysses Club, not that there aren't old farts around
    aus.moto, but most won't admit to it.

    Another (expensive) alternative is http://www.helibars.com/honda.html

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Oct 15, 2005
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    jase Guest

    google search for helibars should solve the problem, also take a look
    at www.cbr1100xx.net (i think it was)
     
    jase, Oct 15, 2005
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  6. Grump

    Jollyrodgers Guest

    An FJR1300 would have solved the problem.
    Goes hard, handles well and a good riding position.
     
    Jollyrodgers, Oct 15, 2005
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  7. Grump

    Grump Guest

    Hmmm, yes, & so would a BMW K 1200 S at over $30G. as well as any number of
    dearer & heavier tourers :)
    However having just purchased a new Blackbird for $15G, I'm now looking to
    adapt it to my requirements.
    Regards, Grump.
     
    Grump, Oct 15, 2005
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  8. Grump

    Grump Guest

    Regards, Grump.
     
    Grump, Oct 15, 2005
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  9. Grump

    Grump Guest

    Thanks for the leads.
    Regards, Grump.
     
    Grump, Oct 15, 2005
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  10. Grump

    GB Guest

    No no! This is Usenet. We hear your plea for help, and shall
    now proceed to painstakingly dissect, diagnose and address
    a problem that you don't have!

    HTH, HAND, :)

    G
     
    GB, Oct 15, 2005
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    Bruce Guest

    The two answers I have heard to this question are either helibars, as
    someone else mentioned, or using the VF800 bars on the blackbird.

    Bruce
    CBR1100XX
    ZR750 (for sale)
     
    Bruce, Oct 16, 2005
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    imagineero Guest

    I toured overseas on a CBR1100 for a year and found it pretty
    perfect... im 6'2 though, and have pretty long arms. How much extra
    bar height do you need? A small bit can make a big difference... have
    you tried lowering the bike down on the forks, try say 10mm, and then
    raise the bars on the forks by another 5-7mm (which will leave the
    forks slightly recessed in the bars). All you'll need is a spanner and
    and allen key. This is free and you might find you like it. It will
    make the bike a bit lower to the ground, and turn in a little faster.

    I have weak wrists as well and at lower around town speeds they start
    to ache pretty fast. I find if i make a conscous effort to squeeze the
    tank with my knees and supprt my upper body with my stomach rather than
    just leaning on my arms im a lot more comfortable. I also find i get
    better low speed control this way and it helps get those washboard abs
    my girlfriend is always wishing i had rather than my slight beer gut.
    This isnt as painful as it sounds; just a matter of goot posture.
     
    imagineero, Oct 16, 2005
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  13. Grump

    Grump Guest

    Thanks for this information..I've already raised the bars on the forks as
    far as I can, but hadn't considered lowering the bike on the forks for fear
    of an adverse effect on the bike's handling at speed at the reduced rake.
    I'm only 5'11", 61 yrs old with arthritis in my neck & back (might have
    left it too late to improve my posture & abs, lol), so was looking to lift
    the bars &/or extend them rearwards at least 3cm.
    Will experiment with your suggestion & have checked out the Helibar link.
    Looking at the pic of the item on the site, there's not much to them... I
    may even be able to knock up my own set out of suitable stock if all else
    fails. The price of the Helibars is a bit steep for my pocket.
    Regards, Grump.
     
    Grump, Oct 16, 2005
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    atec Guest

    you need glycusomine and condroitin up to 8 gms a day with non citrus
    juice and some mild exercise . ( did I spell that correctly ?)
     
    atec, Oct 16, 2005
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  15. Grump

    Grump Guest

    Thanks...been on the glucosamine for a while now & it helps.
    Haven't heard of the 2nd item before...
    Regards, Grump.
     
    Grump, Oct 16, 2005
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    imagineero Guest

    hope it helps a lot, and for what its worth, if you're not scraping
    pegs (if you're scraping feelers then snap them off) its worthwhile
    lowering on the forks. it will improve the handling. I've also found
    that a larger tank bag can improve things too, because you can rest
    your chest on it (not to mention the extra luggage capacity). go for
    one of the really big ones.

    I ended up dropping my cbr1100 down on the forks a little, and adding
    one link to the standard chain and running it out at the extremes of
    chain adjustment. It felt a bit more stable that way, and it suited my
    style of riding which is high speed sports touring. I like to spend
    whole days at speeds of 180~200km/h though there arent many countries
    left where you can do this safely and economically. the cbr wasnt even
    moving at these speeds and the DCBS which i hated with back brake
    operation gave good results with front and excellent with front and
    rear pulled it up in distances unimaginable. I often got up into the
    230~250 range and occasionally into the heady 300+ zone, though at
    these speeds i wasnt looking at the speedo. 100 metres a second is no
    time to take your eye off the target. I went through a rear tyre
    almost every month on my blackbird, and a front every other month. it
    was worth _every penny_

    Overtaking vehicles eventually became a problem, and this bike truly
    redefined my idea of fast in the roll on speed of 100~200. This was
    probably the ultimate reason that i moved down to an older cbr1000
    hurricane; I would come around a corner at 80 and flit to the wrong
    side of the road. summing up the situation quickly i would see 20 cars
    on my side and one car on the other and i'd think to myself 'i could
    take 18, maybe 19 of those before i reach that car'. nowadays i only
    take 15.
     
    imagineero, Oct 16, 2005
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    GB Guest

    What are you replying to?

    GB
     
    GB, Oct 17, 2005
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  18. Grump

    GB Guest

    What are you replying to?

    GB
     
    GB, Oct 17, 2005
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    Nev.. Guest

    Umm... just unscrew them. It'll be a lot neater than snapping them
    off. But if you've got no feelers, the fairings will scrape before the
    pegs.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Oct 17, 2005
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    FuTAnT Guest

    They work best together. The Glucosamine helps the regeneration of
    cartilage, where the Chondroitin improves the lubrication and nutrition of
    the joint. You can buy them in one tablet, I've got a bottle of Blackmores
    "Joint Formula" hanging around somewhere. Hey, I'm on 25, but if you run a
    shitload (like I used to) things get a bit sore.

    Cam
     
    FuTAnT, Oct 17, 2005
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