Honda Benly 99% there

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by WorkTOG, Dec 10, 2003.

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    WorkTOG Guest

    Been beetling around on the CD200 Benly I bought recently. It still
    strikes me as being remarkably quick, for a Benly.

    Originally all the carb, valve and ignition settings were to ratshit.
    Because it's running pattern pipes which are much less restrictive
    than OE Honda, though they look identical, and K&N airfilter foam
    sheet in the air box instead of the genuine Honda foam, I reckoned it
    was running a tad on the lean side.

    Symptoms were a marked unwillingness to tick over and it had a
    tendency to cut out...

    Anyway, the pilot air screw is in the bottom of the carb float bowl,
    right up against the block, and I opened it out about another half
    turn (2 turnes standard) and raised the carb needle one notch.

    It's now *much* better. However, it still takes a few seconds for the
    tickover to settle. If you stop at the lights and snick it into
    neutral, the tickover is initially very slow and then, after a few
    seconds, it picks up and settles to its normal speed. But before it
    does that, there is still the occasional risk of it cutting out.

    Now, I reckon this means that the pilot setting is still a shade weak.
    Anyone want to confirm or refute this?
     
    WorkTOG, Dec 10, 2003
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    *shrug*

    I didn't understand a word of that, but I've saved the post and I hope
    that sometime between now and 12th March it'll all make sense.
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 10, 2003
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    Steve Parry Guest

    In
    When you come to a stop and the tickover slows > speeds up >
    settles could this be the floats set a lttle too high allowing a
    little extra juice to "slop" in when you brake?


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    Steve Parry, Dec 10, 2003
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  4. No
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 10, 2003
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    sweller Guest

    I'd normally say a slight air leak, on the engine side of the carb.

    But, darsy's CD was a pest to set up initially. Although it has
    apparently improved with use.

    In light of that, if yours has been underused, don't worry about it. Put
    some miles on it but keep an eye on the plug from time to time. It could
    simply be a case of varnish/gum in the carb.
     
    sweller, Dec 10, 2003
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  6. Hm. Possible.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 11, 2003
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    Hog Guest

    To be fair does anyone fully understand the buggers.
     
    Hog, Dec 11, 2003
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    I hope to understand them a venturi...
     
    Geoff Berrow, Dec 11, 2003
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  9. *Nice*
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 12, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    I'm coming over all emulsional here ...
     
    Pip, Dec 12, 2003
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    sweller Guest

    I find myself constantly depressed by some peoples ignorance ...
     
    sweller, Dec 12, 2003
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    Andy Clews Guest

    Thus spake Pip unto the assembled multitudes:
    Don't fuel the controversy...
     
    Andy Clews, Dec 12, 2003
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    ....someone might get the needle.
     
    Geoff Berrow, Dec 12, 2003
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    Eddie Guest

    Well, whatever floats your boat.
     
    Eddie, Dec 12, 2003
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    WorkTOG Guest

    <sharp intake of breath>
     
    WorkTOG, Dec 12, 2003
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    Hog Guest

    This thread is choking me up and I have butterflies in my tummy. We should
    let it slide before the laughing gives me a pain in the diaphragm.
     
    Hog, Dec 12, 2003
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    Andy Clews Guest

    Thus spake Hog unto the assembled multitudes:
    Right... (fx: rubs hands)

    I gas there's more in the pipeline as we all get busy hunting for more,
    before the thread finally stalls (or it's throttled) and we've no more in
    reserve. My sister Petra'll ask my brother filter have a go.
     
    Andy Clews, Dec 12, 2003
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  18. Having the fuel/float height too high and rectified by weakening the
    mixture with the air screw to enable a steady tick over would have a
    similar effect.

    When running a a large throttle opening the engine's OK as the part of
    the fuel flow control comes back to the size of the float needle valve
    'jet'. As you shut the throttle and quickly disengage the drive from the
    engine, the engine tries to adjust to the rising fuel level in the float
    bowl. First it starts off running weak and speeds up, then as the fuel
    level rises the engine settles down to the 'artificial' high fuel/air
    screw mix tick over that was set.

    Set the float height up correctly and the effect should go away.

    HTH
     
    Mick Whittingham, Dec 13, 2003
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