Highway 128 in California

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by muddycat, May 19, 2005.

  1. muddycat

    muddycat Guest

    muddycat, May 19, 2005
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  2. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddycat
    Interesting road, whereabouts in CA is it?

    Oh, and tell you mate his road positioning and overtake planning are
    fucking shite.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 19, 2005
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  3. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Wicked Uncle Nigel amazed us all with this pearl
    of wisdom:
    It looks a lot like that bit of road where the CBR pilot binned it in
    that video a few weeks ago. Don't laugh but I recognise one of the
    barriers.[1]


    [1] 34 seconds in.
     
    Whinging Courier, May 19, 2005
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  4. muddycat

    rob2 Guest

    What's wrong with it, looks good to me (as a learner) so would like
    to know what the reasoning is.
     
    rob2, May 19, 2005
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  5. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, rob2
    Positioning is summed up by that lovely Dave Corden phrase "Hunger for
    the view". Put yourself in a position where you can see as far as
    possible ahead. *Usually* way to the left on right handers and way to
    the right on left handers.

    Modify this if that would put you in a silly position (close to a
    junction on to the road you're on, embedded in the front of an oncoming
    Scania, on a patch of diesel, that kind of thing).

    Doing that would allow him to see traffic he's going to overtake
    earlier. Then he can plan the overtake so that he doesn't scurry up to
    the back of the vehicle, brake, *then* accelerate around it. Arrive at
    the guy in front already going fast enough to pass, but not so fast that
    you can't get out of it if something smells wrong.

    And use the fucking gearbox and throttle. Some of those overtakes were
    *way* too slow[1]. Being close to the vehicle in front, or alongside it
    on the "wrong" side of the road is dangerous. So get the **** out of
    there ASAP.

    [1] I'll accept "the camera makes it look slower" as a partial defence
    here.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 20, 2005
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  6. muddycat

    rob2 Guest

    I read this and Bears advice and I ride just like that guy, so maybe
    some practice is required, this is meant to be knocked down but
    that police IAM handbook thing says you follow for an overtake then
    close in to the vehicle with flashing or whatever to make sure they've
    seen you (not every time obviously), so simply you close up just
    before the overtake ?.

    Got told off lots for maintaining momentum on my training; instructor
    said I went into the last few miles of corners faster than he would like to
    ,so I'm caught between tempering going faster than the vanishing point?,
    apex? allows like a suicidal maniac, and going the proper speed.

    Once I followed the Police riders thing and looked for the point where
    the edges of the road meet visually on a corner I get those sweeping joined
    curves without any panic, it kinda forces me to slow down as they meet
    IYSWIM, but the positioning and overtakes are still a worry.
     
    rob2, May 20, 2005
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  7. muddycat

    muddycat Guest

    Northern California.

    http://www.pashnit.com/roads/cal/Highway128.htm
    Will do.
     
    muddycat, May 20, 2005
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  8. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddycat
    Lovely. Might as well tell him he's crap in bed whilst you're about it.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 20, 2005
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  9. muddycat

    muddycat Guest

    Sometimes it cannot be helped though. But for the most part I agree with
    you. I like to pass them before they know I'm there.
    Eh? Coming clean may help someone else to not make the same mistakes.
    Besides, I want to hear how you screwed the pooch.

    We call it HVR, high visual horizon. Or look down the road, not at your
    front wheel.

    Positioning is a good thing too, especially on narrow two lane twisty
    roads. Some twonk here lost his head (literally). His bike was in the
    lane, but his head was over the double-yellow and impacted the bumper of
    a largish truck going the other direction.

    You're right about the DWS. It's great fun spotting them.
     
    muddycat, May 20, 2005
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  10. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddycat
    <sigh>

    It was on the last FrogTrip. It wasn't really a Mistake-To-Learn-From so
    much as a Red-Mist-With-Added-Shit-Judgement moment.

    I was following a Belgian truck (and had been for some time). I decided
    the overtake was there. It wasn't. There was an oncoming car who went
    left when I needed him to go right. There were cones. There was a
    rapidly narrowing gap. And I was on the BlingMobile (which is not the
    slimmest of devastatingly quick cross country filtering tools).

    Not my finest hour.

    I'm still alive, but can claim no credit for this fact.

    Boots (who was following) reckoned I had as much as half an inch to
    spare. I reckon there was at least three-quarters. Which reminds me, I
    need to smooth the pucker marks out of the saddle during the current
    service.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 20, 2005
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  11. muddycat

    ogden Guest

    Really, really, really really, really, really, really fucking slow,
    apparently.
     
    ogden, May 20, 2005
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  12. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
    So you're already booked on a trip out there, then?

    Oh no. I see they have hairpins. Best not, eh?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 20, 2005
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  13. muddycat

    muddycat Guest

    Ugh. ICWUM I haven't done that, but I have one or two things on my list
    of stuff not to do again.
     
    muddycat, May 20, 2005
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  14. muddycat

    muddycat Guest

    " "
     
    muddycat, May 20, 2005
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  15. muddycat

    ogden Guest

    Hairpins aren't a problem at the moment.

    It's being stationary that leads to damage.
     
    ogden, May 20, 2005
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddycat
    <Fuckwits Anonymous Meeting>

    Welcome Brother Muddycat! Share your story with us...

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 20, 2005
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  17. muddycat

    petrolcan Guest

    Would a quick tale of running into the back of a flatbed recovery truck
    allow access to a FAM?
     
    petrolcan, May 20, 2005
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  18. muddycat

    muddycat Guest

    <steps up to lectern>
    <coffs>

    Well, I was filtering up this line of stopped traffic at a rather rapid
    pace, see. I went between two medium sized vans and was paying attention
    to the mirrors, when I saw I was okay I screwed the throttle open again.
    Only I should have been looking at the huge artic taking up all the room
    in front of me. The bike started under the trailer and I grabbed a hand
    full of brakes. I did stop, but put a ding in my visor when I planted my
    face in the rear bumper.

    Thank you, thankyouverymuch.
     
    muddycat, May 20, 2005
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  19. muddycat

    muddycat Guest

    *snort*
     
    muddycat, May 20, 2005
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  20. muddycat

    petrolcan Guest

    It was pretty simple really.

    Roundabout.

    He was going and so was I.

    He stalled as I didn't.

    I took out his tail light and scratched my front mudguard.

    Phoned his company and explained to his boss that he has employed a
    fuckwit.

    Heard nothing else :)
     
    petrolcan, May 20, 2005
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