Hi-Ho Hitler!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Demetrius XXIV and the Gladiatores, Mar 3, 2004.

  1. Boy America really is marching towards fascism!

    Recently I got my hands on this Neoconservative "tell all" book that's
    been making the rounds lately. The reason why it fell into my hands
    was cause the publisher, a major player had formed a pseudo-entity and
    was conducting a "grassroots" marketing campaign via direct mail that
    has been most successful. Imagine that... big name outlets pretending
    to be underground publishers that print "the book that nobody dared
    publish!"

    Flipping through the pages I am impressed at how cleanly one can rip
    off Mein Kampf in the 21st Century and get away with it! I can see why
    one would attempt to distance themselves from this sort of bile all
    the while profiting madly from the sales. It's the same tired
    screedery... against diversity, immigration, multiculturalism,
    politicians, populist democracy, etc... the only thing missing is
    blaming the Jews for everything. Of course I doubt that'd go over well
    considering the editor was Jewish. But he apparently has no problem at
    all with other groups being villified much in the same way our old
    friend Adolf did decades ago.

    While it's not amazing that people can repackage this vitriol
    ceaselessly and find some sort of audience, it IS amazing that this
    crap is being put out by major media outlets and finding a mainstream
    audience here in the United States.

    Which makes me wonder about when the other shoe going to fall? Europe
    has been sitting comfortably under the NATO umbrella with its pants
    around the ankles for decades. A semi-successful socialist experiment
    made possible by their paltry military spending with nary a threat in
    sight.

    Increasingly they find themselves at odds with American policy...
    minus the tools to do much of anything about it. If they embark on the
    deficit spending spree that makes our sort of military machine
    possible you can kiss your socialised benefits goodbye!

    Then of course we have China and Russia. One, a sleepy giant which if
    roused will go rummaging through downtown like Godzilla in the midst
    of a drunken stupor. The other, a smile on its face while it openly
    assfucks the entire industrialised world with their limitless slave
    labor pool.

    In this climate we have a nation growing increasingly disinterested in
    moderation. One that coincidentally posesses the world's largest
    nuclear arsenal! One in which ignorance and common man "common sense"
    is celebrated at the expense of all else. This has happened before,
    with not too pretty results.

    Thoughts? I'm willing to bet our uk.contingent that the only American
    response to this will be "**** off, we don't care". ;)

    So are you You're-a-peons gonna step up to the plate? The American
    lefty response thus far has been more of their own brand of extremism.
    As if two dictators can make a Parliament.




    PS
    Keep those Triumphs coming or we invade next Tuesday!
     
    Demetrius XXIV and the Gladiatores, Mar 3, 2004
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    Cane Guest

    I'm sure less of our guys would get shot that way.
     
    Cane, Mar 3, 2004
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    AndrewR Guest

    You'll never get there ... even fascists have standards.


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    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Mar 3, 2004
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  4. Demetrius XXIV and the Gladiatores wrote
    I was watching the telly box last night and there was a program on about
    that Democrat bloke (the one who looks like Lurch), and they were doing
    their best to describe to us about how merkin politics is different and
    they described The Throwback as a _moderate_ Republican.

    The mind boggles.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 3, 2004
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    gomez Guest

    Could you post the el pres summary version for those of us with the
    short attention span.
     
    gomez, Mar 3, 2004
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    Hank Guest

    The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

    Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler
    (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and
    several Latin American regimes.
    Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make
    constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other
    paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on
    clothing and in public displays.

    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of
    enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are
    persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of
    "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of
    torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of
    prisoners, etc.

    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The
    people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to
    eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or
    religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

    4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic
    problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of
    government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and
    military service are glamorized.

    5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be
    almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional
    gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality
    are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian
    of the family institution.

    6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled
    by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly
    controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople
    and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

    7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational
    tool by the government over the masses.

    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist
    nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool
    to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is
    common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the
    religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or
    actions.

    9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business
    aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the
    government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial
    business/government relationship and power elite.

    10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor
    is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are
    either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to
    promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia.
    It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored
    or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly
    attacked.

    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the
    police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people
    are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil
    liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police
    force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always
    are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each
    other to government positions and use governmental power and authority
    to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in
    fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be
    appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

    14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are
    a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear
    campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use
    of legislation to control voting numbers or political district
    boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also
    typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.





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    http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/hhh3/
    http://www.septembereleventh.org/
    http://globalresearch.ca/
    http://www.wsws.org/

    Dick Cheney: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam
    Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." August 26, 2002.

    Ari Fleischer: "We know for a fact that there are weapons there."
    January 9, 2003.

    Colin Powell: "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep
    his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more."
    February 5, 2003.

    Donald Rumsfeld: "We know where they are," about these weapons.
    "They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad." March 30, 2003.

    George W. Bush: "We have sources that tell us that Saddam
    Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical
    weapons." February 8, 2003.

    George W. Bush: "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments
    leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal
    some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." March 17, 2003.


    "I think this is the worst government the US has ever
    had in its more than 200 years of history. It has
    engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies not
    only in foreign policy and economics but also in social
    and environmental policy.....This is not normal government
    policy. Now is the time for people to engage in civil
    disobedience. I think it's time to protest - as much as
    possible....What we have here is a form of looting."
    - George A. Akerlof, 2001 Nobel prize laureate economist

    "One of the things we don't want to do is destroy the
    infrastructure in Iraq because in a few days we're going
    to own that country," - Tom Brokaw

    Cost of probing Bill Clinton's sex life: $65 million.
    Cost of probing the Columbia shuttle disaster: $50 million.
    Funds assigned to independent Sept. 11 panel: $3 million.

    http://www.commondreams.org/
    http://www.truthout.org/
    http://counterpunch.org/
    http://responsiblewealth.org/


    "After all, it is the leaders of the country who determine
    the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the
    people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
    dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
    Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
    bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to
    do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the
    peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country
    to danger. It works the same in any country."
    -- Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and
    Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
    or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
    not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
    to the American public."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

    "You know, when bu$h said that he's against nation building,
    I didn't realize that he meant only the United States"
    -- Al Franken

    Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
    friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
     
    Hank, Mar 4, 2004
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  7. We'll discover how fast this coming November.
     
    Roger Wrolstad, Mar 4, 2004
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    'Hog Guest

    I prefer their brand of creeping totalitarianism to ours mind.
     
    'Hog, Mar 4, 2004
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  9. 4 out of 5 dentists surveyed preferred the taste of American
    totalitarianism to the European one.

    Now if your dentist recommends American totalitarianism, shouldn't
    your family enjoy it too?
     
    Demetrius XXIV and the Gladiatores, Mar 4, 2004
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  10. If there can be jumbo shrimp and pygmy mamoths, there's no reason he
    can't be a moderate republican.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Mar 4, 2004
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  11. Like Peter Fonda in "Easy Rider" was just the greatest fascist! That movie
    sure made me think about Kristallnacht in a new light, lemme tell you!
    Damn that Amnesty International, anyway. What do they know?
    Just like World War II, huh?
    That rules out America-- most people don't know the difference between a
    sergeant and a colonel (lieutenant or otherwise), and don't even dare
    confuse them with a rear admiral in dress mess. Hoo boy!
    Hmmmm. I'm not so sure on this one. May I take a moment and check in with
    Condoleeza Rice and Ruth Bader Ginzburg?
    You really got that from Tom Brokaw or Geraldo Rivera, didn't you? come on,
    admit it.
    So it's actually the government shooting up the housing projects, isn't it?
    Damn them anyway. Guess I better lock the doors tonight... lemme see iffen I
    can find the keys first, tho.
    Sort of like India or Sri Lanka? Note to Self: Watch them boogers, they may
    start WWIII real soon now.
    Sort of like Germany and France, eh?
    Let me check that with the AFL-CIO and the UAW. I'll be right back on that
    one.
    Americans have *always* prided themselves on being as anti-intellectual as
    they could possibly be... don't forget, we gave the world P.T. Barnum ("No
    one ever went broke under-estimating the taste of the American public.")
    Nah. I tried to read it once, but it was just SOOOOOOOOOOOO boring. Typical
    Russian novel... too many words (see 11 above).
    Bwahahahaha! Haven't read your late nineteenth century recently, have ya?
    Still, just to make sure, let me check in with the WTO, the Tri-Lateral
    Commission, and the Illuminati. I'll get right back to ya.
    You've never lived in Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, or Alabama, have you?
    Well, or Illinois, Ohio, or Michigan for that matter. It's THE great
    American tradition-- Vote Early, Vote Often!
     
    Aardvark G. Bandersnatch, CPE, RCA, IBM, LSMFT, Mar 5, 2004
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  12. Swerving the topic back to motorcycles, Fonda's character like many
    lefty rabblerousers from the 60s was using the patriot paraphanelia to
    toss it back into the face of the mindless prole right who supported
    Vietnam and used the tired old "love it or leave it" argument mindless
    right wing proles are using today.

    Ultimately it's what got him shot. Which says a lot about America,
    then and now.
    Yes they do.

    Sarge, sends the boys off to die with a heavy heart.

    Col., scratches his chin as he debates how many boys should die for
    this hill.
    All totalitarian states have been quite liberal at the upper echelons.
    Even the monarchies of Europe had Queens running the show!

    What separates them from true democracies is how far down the ladder
    such equality exists.
    Speaking of which, did you know Ted Koeppel rides motorcycles? BMW to
    be exact.
    If you consider the police an arm of government, why yes.
    Nah, they don't have enough nukes.
     
    Demetrius XXIV and the Gladiatores, Mar 5, 2004
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  13. You haven't been near a housing project recently, have you?
     
    Aardvark G. Bandersnatch, CPE, RCA, IBM, LSMFT, Mar 5, 2004
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  14. Not if I can help it. However we have our share and things are mostly
    quiet these days in them areas.
     
    Demetrius XXIV and the Gladiatores, Mar 6, 2004
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