help whats up with new chain

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by bo jangles, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. bo jangles

    bo jangles Guest

    Just put in a new renthal 525 chain on my 92 750, had to get a master
    link from the bike shop as I have no tool to press on the one renthal
    gave me. I also replaced the front sprocket which was slightly larger
    in circumferance but 2 more teeth. I rolled down a hill with no
    problem but when I put it in gear, I heard some clink and clank than
    the chain was on the ground. Shit, as I'm writing this I realized I
    didn't tighten the chain tensioner on the swing arm. I guess I was too
    anxious to get goin, that'll learn me...
     
    bo jangles, Apr 27, 2010
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    paul c Guest

    do you think it was too loose or too tight? just curious...
     
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    bo jangles Guest


    I think it pulled the tire in than got bound up, probably too loose
     
    bo jangles, Apr 27, 2010
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  4. Ye Gods. Up two teeth on the gearbox sprocket? It won't pull the skin
    off curdled coffee now.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 27, 2010
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    I would imagine that if it is low geared like most, it won`t be as bad as
    that. I almost always jump up one tooth on every thing but a racer for
    easier revs at speed anyway. haven`t had one be too over geared yet.
    Usually gives some milage improvement also. KB

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    Kevin Bottorff, Apr 27, 2010
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  6. bo jangles

    ` Guest

    Under power, the slack is in the bottom run of chain, but when
    coasting, the slack is in the top run of chain so it can come off the
    front sprocket.

    I've only had the chain come off the sprockets twice in 50 years of
    riding, once was in a motocross race when I was slowing down for the
    checkered flag and the chain slack (normal on a motocrosser) shifted
    from bottom to top...

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    `, Apr 27, 2010
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  7. bo jangles

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    The usual rule of thumb for Japanese motorcycles is to install a front
    sprocket with *one* more tooth or a rear sprocket with *three* less
    teeth.

    But Ducatis tend to have rather tall first gears so the transmission
    will be more useful on the racetrack, so the general rule of adding
    one tooth to the front sprocket doesn't apply.

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    `, Apr 27, 2010
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  8. It might, yes, on some low geared bikes, but a 1992 750 (whatever it is)
    is unlikely to be that.

    One tooth, yeah, done it myself. Two teeth? Geddoudahere.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 27, 2010
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  9. bo jangles

    ` Guest

    The problem is that aerodynamic drag is a velocity squared factor.
    Aerodynamic drag is four times as great at 80 mph as it is a 40 mph,
    so EIGHT times as much horsepower is required to ride at the favored
    highway speed.
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    **** you, you obnoxious Limey cocksucker!
     
    `, Apr 27, 2010
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  10. Duh.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 27, 2010
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  11. I've done it twice. Once, 30 years ago, when I bought a CB750F - the
    first slab-sided 'Super Sport' SOHC CB750. Horrible thing. A really,
    really nasty underdeveloped bike.

    Anyway, it would spin straight to the redline in top, and I discovered
    Honda had actually geared it down for acceleration. The gearbox sprocket
    from a K4 had one more tooth, and made the bike far more pleasant to
    ride and aided mpg.

    I did the same thing with my late-1980s Yamaha RD350F2 power-valve. That
    would also spin to the redline in top. Going up one tooth on the gearbox
    sprocket did, in fact, increase the top speed (ISTR Performance Bikes
    doing the same mod and getting 127mph out of the thing!) but it changed
    the 'dead zone' (where the power valve couldn't decide whether to open
    or not) from an indicated 70 mph to an indicated 75-80, which made the
    thing, on UK roads, a PITA.

    I put it back to stock. I've still got that extra sprocket in a box
    somewhere.

    My Ducati (currently awaiting fuel tank surgery) is overgeared in top -
    it would theoretically redline at 150 in top. I've often thought of
    gearing it down to make it snappier, but I actually like the loping
    V-twin gait, so I've left the gearing stock.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 27, 2010
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  12. bo jangles

    ` Guest

    **** you, you obnoxious Limey cocksucker!
     
    `, Apr 28, 2010
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  13. A slight attribution mix-up there :)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 28, 2010
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  14. bo jangles

    ` Guest

    Again, **** you, you obnoxious Limey cocksucker!
     
    `, Apr 28, 2010
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  15. bo jangles

    S'mee Guest

    SNIP
    This was a good thread until Krusty the Chickenhawk showed his ass...

    Your ignorance is already well know moron...
     
    S'mee, Apr 28, 2010
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  16. wrong

    I don't think so, actually. Not all of it.
    Duh
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 28, 2010
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  17. bo jangles

    bo jangles Guest

    So, I got the axle aligned and tightened, chain back on with just an
    inch or so of slack on the bottom side, put the clip on the link, and
    again, a little pressure on the chain and plop, on the ground. The
    clip was a little bent, wtf?
     
    bo jangles, May 1, 2010
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  18. bo jangles

    ` Guest

    It sounds like you have a serious *sprocket* misalignment problem.

    Maybe you installed one of the axle spacers in the wrong position?

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    S'mee Guest

    Nope you are wrong, dead wrong. But knowing as I do that you know
    nothing about motorcycles...it's not surprising.
     
    S'mee, May 2, 2010
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  20. bo jangles

    ` Guest

    Why don't you go tug on a trucker's dick?
     
    `, May 2, 2010
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