help the noob?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by abd08, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. abd08

    abd08 Guest

    Hey all,

    Passed CBT and Theory, going for DAS, no bike now cos someone decided
    to cut across me for a turn. Then changed his mind and stopped in the
    middle of the road. @rsehole. So, a few q's:

    1. Does everyone carry a pair of shoes in their tank bags when they
    head out to meet mates, or can you really manage w/boots?

    2. GS500 looks like a nice starter bike. But doesn't look cool. Are
    there any semi-recent (upto 3 yr old) 400cc "sports bikes" which have
    a slightly more easy Gixxer like riding position?

    3. Would riding a 400cc sports bike still be considered "worse" than a
    GS500?

    4. Can't u get metal bars or something that protect the fairings when
    it does get dropped? (like on the sides - maybe remove them after a
    while)

    5. How do you pick up ur dropped bike? I'm 5'6, scrawny, and if the
    SR125 I had was anything to go by (barely managed to get that up),
    then a 400/500 is gonna stay down.

    Cheers!
     
    abd08, Apr 16, 2007
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  2. abd08

    Pip Guest

    FFS. Boots.
    I'd say so. Girl's bikes.
    Crash bars. Lots of experienced riders fit them.
    Practice and technique.

    Oh, and can the txtspk, eh? You have a fullsize keyboard, use it.
     
    Pip, Apr 16, 2007
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  3. Well done and welcome to the Dark Side.

    No and it depends on the boot. Some of them most definitely are not
    made for walking.

    You really don't want a starter bike that "looks cool". You want one
    which can gather battle scars and still work.

    100cc less!! I couldn't think of anything worse, other than 200cc less.
    "There is no substitute for cubes," as the merkins are want to say.

    My Bloo GS has/had a tatty fairing which would not accommodate crash
    bars. The tatty fairing has since been removed and crash bars are in the
    process of being fitted. I know which I would rather have.

    I believe there is a mention of this in the ukrm ffaq, which you are
    well advised to read. In brief though:- you back into it and use your
    legs. Although I just picked mine up when it fell off the side stand
    last week and I am neither fit nor strong but I am incredibly handsome.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 16, 2007
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  4. abd08

    BGN Guest

    There are many styles of boots. I've got some huge Diadora ones at
    the moment which one doesn't want to walk for any length of time in,
    but I used to have some Nitro boots that lasted for about a year of
    abuse then died. The Nitro boots were quite good because they would
    fut underneath jeans and could be walked in.

    On my travels to work and back I wear DM's as they're a good
    compromise, IMHO. Others may suggest decent motorcycle boots for any
    riding. You need to decide what you're happy with.
    Seeing as you're going to throw it down the road soon after purchasing
    it I can't think of a bike more ideal than a Suzuki GS500/Kawasaki
    ER-5/Honda CB500. They're cheap to fix, spares are plentiful and they
    crash very well. I'd stay away from anything that's covered in very
    expensive plastic for a year or two if I were you.
    Not if one is a laydee.
    Crash bars is what they're called. More likely to be marketed as
    Engine Bars.

    <http://www.revsperformance.com/images/renntec/enginebars/GSF1200eng2lge.jpg>

    I've had engine bars on both of the bikes I've owned and they are
    worth every penny. When the bike comes to a rest after falling over
    or whatever the machine generally rests on one of the engine bars and
    the end of a handlebar which potentially reduced some of the the
    damage to the machine. Normally just killing off a mirror or an
    indicator.

    If you get a bike covered in plastic then you're probably looking for
    Crash Bungs (sometimes called Mushrooms)
    Hit the kill switch bend down and kill arms and what's left of your
    back.

    OR: <http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/pickup.html> A lady shows how to do it
    here.
     
    BGN, Apr 16, 2007
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    Edward Guest

    Lift some weights and eggs raw eggs like Rocky :)
     
    Edward, Apr 16, 2007
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  6. abd08

    Edward Guest

    hmmm I have a dodgy ooking cousing looking for a handsome biker ... or
    anyone with a pulse ... you'll do. She will e-mail you :)
     
    Edward, Apr 16, 2007
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  7. I have a pulse.

    It goes, boom boody boom boody boom boody boom boom boom.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 16, 2007
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  8. If you forget to pack shoes then you can dance all night in Sidi black
    rains and a floaty skirt. The skirt is optional. Mind you, this is
    UKRM...
    It's a bike, it has automatic cool value. Having said that starter
    bikes aren't meant to look cool. They are there to be dropped.

    And who cares what anyone else thinks anyway?
    No idea.
    Absolutely not.
    Crash bars or crash mushrooms. really should have fitted some of those
    myself.
    GAMI.
     
    Work in progress, Apr 16, 2007
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    Rattie Guest

    Technique. We have some tiny girls at work who can quite successfully
    right a fully kitted Pan or R1150RT all on their lonesome. (No, I don't
    mean by standing there and looking all gurly, although that's been known to
    work!) Then again, one does seem to spend week one of the bike course
    falling over a lot and learning how to pick the damn things up.
     
    Rattie, Apr 16, 2007
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    Molly Guest

    I represent that.

    They can still many a sportsbike rider a bit of a scare in the twisties.
     
    Molly, Apr 16, 2007
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  11. abd08

    Molly Guest

    Good man
    Boots are cool, I got kneesliders on mine.
    SV650, job done.
    No, most 400 sportsbike are far more powerful than a GS500.
    I'm 5'2" probably more scrawny than you and I can`pick up most bikes, it's
    down to technique.
     
    Molly, Apr 16, 2007
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  12. Goodness gracious me!
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 16, 2007
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  13. Dodgy cooking or looking? One I can put up with, but the other...
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 16, 2007
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  14. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Grimly Curmudgeon
    Neither, she's an orang-utan.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer as featured in
    Performance Bikes and Fast Bikes

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha Vmax Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 16, 2007
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  15. One would expect an orang-utan to be quite good at the ooking.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 16, 2007
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Grimly Curmudgeon
    Ah well, now[1].

    Maybe that's the problem? She's be able to get hooked-up with some hairy
    orange stud[2] if only she could manage a decent ook.

    It's tragic really.


    [1] If you're going to do de Oirish, Oi'm after joinin' yez.
    [2] If only we knew someone...
    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer as featured in
    Performance Bikes and Fast Bikes

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha Vmax Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 16, 2007
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  17. abd08

    abd08 Guest

    Thanks for all the answers/info!!
    Will report back after my 1st post-DAS crash

    Thanks again,
    Raj
     
    abd08, Apr 16, 2007
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  18. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, abd08
    Just be aware that typing with a stick attached to your head will not
    excuse you from using the shift key.
    NP.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer as featured in
    Performance Bikes and Fast Bikes

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha Vmax Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 16, 2007
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    Lozzo Guest

    Champ says...
    Funny that, all the accidents I've had where I've been badly hurt[1]
    have happened within 20 miles of home.

    [1] With the exception of my Bandit incident in Norfolk.

    --
    Lozzo
    Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
    Suzuki Bandit 600S (Green with added shit bits)
    Yamaha SR250 Delusion (It's "Special")
    I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.
     
    Lozzo, Apr 17, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    Not strictly true. I bought a brand new ZXR400 in 2001. Biketrader turns
    up plenty of L9s with reasonable milage. Sure, they're over three years
    old, but they're more fun than a GS500 I'm sure.
     
    ogden, Apr 17, 2007
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