Help me give the bad SUV driver that hit me & my bike some payback

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Sam Iam, Jun 16, 2004.

  1. Sam Iam

    Sam Iam Guest

    Recently an SUV did an illegally wide right turn from the middle lane
    across my path & there was a collision & the bike & I went down.
    Luckily by the time of impact I had braked enough that the speed was
    low & I was uninjured, perhaps due to the armoured riding suit & the
    bike was undamaged except for a cracked turn signal & scratched
    cylinder head cover (an advantage of the BMW boxer's cylinders
    sticking out).

    The SUV driver apologised & paid what I estimated to be the amount of
    damages at the time & I thought I'd not even file a police report or
    insurance claim but a couple of days afterwards I experienced a brief
    loss of power on the freeway that reduced my speed from 65 mph to half
    that until it recovered.

    The SUV driver is acting skeptical about my post accident mechanical
    problems & even claimed on the phone that I hit him which is
    technically true but only because he illegally veered across my path.

    If anyone has relevant knowledge please let me know what you think
    about the following questions :

    - A) What could happen if I file the truth & he lies (& I have
    witnesses) ?

    - B) What could happen if I file the truth & he lies (& I can't get
    any witnesses to file) ?
    -- C) Then can the cops possibly assign me partial blame just on his
    word ?

    - D) What is the likelihood of his insurance company (if he has one)
    claiming the bike's mechanical problems are not due to the collision ?

    My motorcycle insurance carrier is Foremost and I'm wondering if
    they're going to support me in this or not help me & raise my rates
    despite this not being my fault at all. This happened to me when my
    last insurance carrier Recreational Products (glad they're out of the
    biz now even though they were cheap) failed to pursue a hit & run
    driver that knocked over my parked bike.

    I'm hoping that despite anti-motorcycle prejudice that my profile
    compared to his will help.

    I ride a standard non-sport BMW & am a high income, professional, mid
    30's & have never had a motorcycle accident though I due have some
    minor traffic violations currently on my record.

    The SUV driver is in his mid 20's & his vehicle isn't even registered
    in CA.

    The way I look at it this guy & any insurance company should be glad
    that he didn't kill or injure me.
     
    Sam Iam, Jun 16, 2004
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  2. How do you know the problem has anything to do with the collision ?
    Sounds kinda like a problem with dirty gas.

    If I were this guys lawyer, the first thing I'd ask would be how do
    we even know there was a problem, let alone a problem caused by an
    accident ? You said it started running fine again, so there's nothing
    to look at.

    Also, sounds to me like you entered into a verbal contract with
    this guy to accept a fixed settlement. I really don't think you're
    entitled to anything more.

    I think you need to find the source of the problem before you can
    figure out what to do about it. Also, don't make this kind of
    settlement again if you can't live with the results.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Jun 18, 2004
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  3. (Sam Iam) wrote in message
    There you go. You're screwed. Not calling the cops from the scene of
    the accident pretty much guarantees that you're going to have an
    uphill battle & very likely get squat from anybody.

    I see people do this over & over, and it really is tragic, but the
    defendant's insurance co surely doesnt want to pay out if they dont
    have to, and without a police report *from the scene*, it's pretty
    much your word against his.

    Good luck..


    cds
     
    C. Deforrest Smith, Jun 18, 2004
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  4. Sam Iam

    muddycat Guest

    Always carry a camera with you.
     
    muddycat, Jun 18, 2004
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  5. Sam Iam

    Sam Iam Guest

    Sounds like from the tone of the responses so far that there are a lot
    of SUV driving lawyers with motorcycles on this board.

    In my defense & what I should've written originally was that my
    "verbal contract" with the SUV driver was that he would continue to be
    on the hook for anything that would come up later.

    In any case I don't believe that such a "verbal contract" negates
    basic traffic laws if I chose later to file a claim.

    As for the guy that said that I should've called the cops from the
    scene of the accident I tried that after a prior hit & run on my bike
    & the SFPD told me to come in & file a report & they don't come out
    unless someone is hurt so I assumed that applied for all accidents.

    Next time I will call the cops from the scene & will take a picture
    from my camera phone & ask witnesses for contact info regardless of
    how minor any damage may appear on the outside.

    I had the bike safety checked today & they said the brief loss of
    power may've been bad gas or a jarred connection which they all
    tightened up & the bike's fine.

    This was a good lesson towards any future incident.
     
    Sam Iam, Jun 18, 2004
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  6. Sam Iam

    Alan Moore Guest

    Actually, what you are getting are the responses of people who have,
    as the saying goes, "been there, done that."
    Not to worry. The court will protect him.
    What you are dealing with here isn't traffic laws, but liability laws.
    Sure the guy made an illegal turn causing an accident. Nobody is
    likely to dispute that. If it goes to court, however, his attorneys
    will want to know how fast you were going, too, and will do their best
    to suggest that there was some contributory negligence on your part.
    Yeah, they're understaffed. But if they don't come to the scene, and
    don't see the wreckage, they won't issue a citation.
    Good plan.
    So even your mechanic doesn't know for certain that it was a
    consequence of the accident. Basically, you've gotten what you're
    going to get out of the guy. Any further efforts on your part will be
    a waste of your time, and leave you angrier and more frustrated. Sorry
    and all that, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
     
    Alan Moore, Jun 19, 2004
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  7. If you get the urge to try that kind of agreement again, you
    probably want to do it only with somebody you already know,
    and only after you both know what the damages are.

    Open ended agreements are a really bad idea and generally this
    kind of agreement with folks you don't know is kinda iffy.

    Glad it's ok. Toldja it was probably bad gas.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Jun 19, 2004
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  8. Sam Iam

    zach Guest

    Well, he can file an insurance claim without a police report
    (especially if the accident is on private property--- I've known
    people who said the cops told them they don't take reports for
    fender-benders on private property). I did that once, but then there
    was no disagreement over what happened (I was at fault). However, the
    law says that you must file with DMV if the accident is over $500
    (which these days is pretty much just a scratch, given the corruption
    of the auto repair industry/insurance company/fraudulent insured
    persons triad).

    If you didn't file with DMV within the (3 day?) period, then what are
    you going to do now that you didn't do before without screwing
    yourself? OTOH- he didn't file either (here is a red flag, even if
    there is a verbal agreement, what is to say the other party won't file
    with DMV, not telling you, and thereby screwing you in court because
    you didn't!), so you're both on equal footing. Be thankful you got
    what you got and you are lucky if you get anything else, unless you
    can prove beyond a doubt that your problem is related to the accident,
    in which case you are relying on his continuing honor to pay you.

    Oh yeah, and carry a cheap (how much are the disposable ones now?)
    digital camera with you to document such events in the future... just
    in case. There are plenty of liars out there.
     
    zach, Jun 23, 2004
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