Helmet classification

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by fish, Dec 20, 2004.

  1. fish

    fish Guest

    Just been looking at lids for the SO, picked up a nice(1) shark one and
    found that it didn't have any class A/B or a gold star on it. When I asked
    the bod behind the till a few questions the first being why aren't you in
    school? I was told that the EU sticker inside the lid has replaced the old
    style class A/B and is better than a class A. Any one else heard this? Or
    would any one buy one with out a classA/B rating.

    (1) meaning it was all glittery

    Ken
    B12
     
    fish, Dec 20, 2004
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  2. fish

    SP Guest

    A friend of mine has taken up karting and had to replace his expensive
    lid in order to race as there wasn't a blue BS sticker on it.

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    Lesley
    CBR600FW
    SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
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    Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally
     
    SP, Dec 20, 2004
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    Lozzo Guest

    Keelworm says...
    Exactly wot he said.
     
    Lozzo, Dec 20, 2004
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  4. In theory only in the UK. The idea of the little ACU sticker was to
    enable
    the importers to charge huge amount of profit, to get a helmet with the
    sticker on. But the helmet is not legal out side of the UK. This point
    is subject to a waiver by most countries in the EU for visitors from the
    UK.
    To be legal in the EU the helmet must have a certificate of
    compliance, without this, in theory, you cannot ride as a resident or
    compete, with a UK helmet, out side the UK but a EUer can ride as a
    resident and compete in the UK.
    The original reason for these two standards was because more than one UK
    manufacturer did not reach the EU standard for helmets (I think one was
    Everoak I maybe wrong) So helmets in the UK were not certificated just
    stamped with a little gold labels.

    Ride with a ACU stamped helmet in France as a resident of France and
    your bike insurance is invalid as is your medical insurance. (So I am
    told)
    He should have had a certificate of compliance with the helmet which the
    authorities should accept. If they are particularly thick as many are a
    BS race approved sticker can be applies at 'cost' only during the
    transition period. They are not allowed to rip you off over this.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Dec 23, 2004
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  5. fish

    SP Guest

    That's interesting, but he's already bought a helmet with the required
    sticker on. I'll mention it to him anyway and see if he's aware of it.

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    Lesley
    CBR600FW
    SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
    BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
    BONY#54P BOB#18
    Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally
     
    SP, Dec 23, 2004
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  6. It is all down to the standards proposed in 1985 and passed into law
    with amendment in 1988 (I think, er? that be within the 1988 RTA) the
    one which your reference, references.

    The bit that the official line came across with "The EEC standards
    aren't as high as ours" was misleading. The top standards in the EEC
    were and still are as good as a gold UK helmet but there are were more
    classes in the EEC standards right down to safety helmets worn while
    driving industrial vehicles. If we had adopted the EEC standards two of
    the helmets manufactured in the UK could only be used to drive dumper
    trucks with.

    There were so many complaints about profiteering by importers of
    motorcycle helmets that they had to change the law to allow helmets that
    met the UK standards but were supplied without the gold or silver
    stickers for the transition period until we adopted the EU regs, which
    is where your ref comes in.

    The helmet importers tried to shop grey importers to the C&E for not
    paying VAT on them when they entered this country as they officially
    only became motorcycle helmets when the BSI sticker went on and were
    then 'exempt'. (which was effectively supporting unfair trading.)

    Grey importers went to EEC court and C&E had to reclassify the rating to
    'zero' for helmets regardless of source.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Dec 23, 2004
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  7. fish

    Lozzo Guest

    Mick Whittingham says...
     
    Lozzo, Dec 23, 2004
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    Mick Whittingham, Dec 24, 2004
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