Seeing as the rest of the world is asleep, I have nothing to do but harrass you people. I'm going to build me some heated grips...because I live on a big hill and it gets cold this time of year...down to 0 or even -5 C and the merkins who build Goldwings didnt put any on And here is how to do it; [URL]http://www4.tpgi.com.au/kkmiller/bike/hotgrips.htm[/URL] And more than you can shake the proverbial stick at: [URL]http://www.steliosh.net/moto/heatedgrips/[/URL] including instructions on how to make your own from [URL]http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/joerg.hau/mot/hotgrip.htm[/URL] [URL]http://www.rrr2.de/phil/motorrad/schraub/index.html[/URL] is instructions on making a much fancier set with stepless heater control, but it's in german and even [URL]http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/tr[/URL] won't help unless you have reasonable electrical/electronic smarts. IN other words, if circuit diagrams tell their own story, you'll be fine. [URL]http://www.ebbo.org/homemade_heated_grips.html[/URL] is another home-made one. I used to have a link to an Aussie page, a guy in Canberra I think, but can't find it. Zebee<< not me but Zebee, who knows many things