Hearing Protection

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by John Beck, May 19, 2004.

  1. John Beck

    John Beck Guest

    Hi All,

    Last weekend I rode my GS to SoCal and back (there are wonderful
    roads around the Central Coast & Southern California ... unless that
    would increase traffic on those roads, in which case the roads suck:
    they have gravel, oil spills and snipers)

    On the way back Sunday, between Paso Robles & Salinas there was
    *strong* gusty wind: It blew the map case halfway off my tank bag and
    kept opening my helmet visor. I pressed on through it and the noise was
    something awful (note: I was wearing a flip-face helmet). In fact, I
    still have a little tinnitis - so that's some hearing I'll never get back.

    I was using ear-plugs but even so the high pitch wind noise was too
    loud . I heard that in-the-ear protectors (ear-plugs) stop
    low-frequency sound better and over-the-ear (ear-muff) protectors are
    better at attenuating the high frequency. On my GS the low-frequencies
    aren't too bad - it is the high frequency wind noise which gets to me.
    So this begs the question: are there any over-the-ear style protectors
    which work with a helmet? Perhaps inserts which are pressed against the
    ear by the helmet?

    Also, I have figured out that I should use a non-flip face helmet
    for touring.
     
    John Beck, May 19, 2004
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  2. you might try some different earplugs, also be sure you're inserting them
    fully.. I really like the beige 'ultimate softness series' Hearos foam
    bullets, but others prefer the Howard Leight' bullets. Either of those
    are better than drugstore generic bullets.

    if your flipup helmet was popping open, perhaps you need a true fullface
    helmet such as a shoei or arai (per your head shape).
     
    John R Pierce, May 19, 2004
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  3. are there any over-the-ear style protectors

    John... you owe it to yourself to check out a set of custom molded ear
    plugs...
    the amount of noise reduction is second to none...

    http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3-03/imagepages/EarPlugInstalled.html
    http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3-03/imagepages/RockinEarPlugs.html


    Larry L
    94 RC45 #2
    Have a wheelie NICE day...
    Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
    If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
    V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
    1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
    Yank and bank your brains loose...
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    Larry xlax Lovisone, May 20, 2004
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  4. John Beck

    John Beck Guest

    That latter point is important. I spent a little time practicing
    putting in my plugs (I use the orange Howard Leighton bullets) and I
    found that if I don't wet them, they bunch up in the outer ear canal and
    don't dampen the sound as well.
    I agree. I have tried a dozen different types of ear plugs (mainly back
    in mah shootin' days). For the combination of comfort and noise
    reduction the HL bullets have been the best.
    Well, the chin bar wasn't coming up -- the visor was. Nevertheless, I
    dug out my old FF HJC helmet and have been using it this week and it is
    MUCH quieter. I think the hinge of the chin bar can cause a whistling.


    Thanx for the comments. BTW: I was interested in buying an Arai Quantum F
    a while back and the thing which stopped me was I cannot test it out
    properly
    in a store. I have 4 helmets and each is different. I wish shops had
    a high
    volume air duct I could stick me head (w/ helmet) into for testing - it
    would be
    nice to have two settings: laminar flow and turbulent flow.

    JGB
     
    John Beck, May 21, 2004
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  5. John Beck

    John Beck Guest

    Larry,

    Where did you get those? Man, how I'd love to be able to listen to
    music while en-route to the fun part of the ride. Especially if they
    damp the noise very well.

    JGB
     
    John Beck, May 21, 2004
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  6. San Mateo Motorcycle Show is were I got fitted... coupled with Sirius
    Satellite radio... moozic nonstop I'm in heaven...
    http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3-03/imagepages/RC45SatelliteDisplay.html
    http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/pics11-3-03/imagepages/RC45SatelliteAntenna.html

    Larry L
    94 RC45 #2
    Have a wheelie NICE day...
    Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
    If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
    V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
    1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
    Yank and bank your brains loose...
    http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
    http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
    http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2
     
    Larry xlax Lovisone, May 21, 2004
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  7. John Beck

    Brandon High Guest

    I find that my fitted custom plugs block less sound than the Howard
    Leight foam bullets.

    I still use the custom plugs at times because they're a little more
    comfortable. If I actually want hearing protection though, I wear some
    32dB foam plugs.

    -B
     
    Brandon High, May 22, 2004
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  8. John Beck

    John Beck Guest

    I still haven't found a place to do fitted earplugs but I tried out a
    pair of SilentEar plugs - $9 + S&H ... what a waste of money. I tried
    the 'regular size' and they were uncomfortable after an hour yet didn't
    block the sound nearly as well as Howard Leighton plugs. Ther claimed
    that if the plugs didn't block the sound well enough buy bigger plugs
    .... but these were uncomfortable enough as it was.

    JGB
     
    John Beck, May 24, 2004
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  9. John Beck

    John Beck Guest

    Yes! They are the best I have found (well, after I figured out that
    there really is some technique to getting them in right - maybe my ears
    are funny). I bought those $10 plugs hoping they could improve upon
    them and boy was I disappointed.

    Sunday afternoon, May 16th, I rode through Salinas valley in the worst
    wind I've ever experienced - my ears were ringing for almost a week
    after! Now I take ear protection VERY seriously.

    Aside from testing other plugs, I have experimented inserting the
    orange-bells different ways - I found that licking the tip of the plug
    after rolling it really helps get it seated deep in the canal. Also the
    angle it is inserted makes a difference. Sometimes it is scary how
    loud my breathing sounds when the plugs are inserted correctly.

    Also: I think the foam of the orange bells needs to "rest" after being
    plucked from the ol' ear canal. When I put them in the first time I get
    a better seal than I do after removing them and re-inserting. So I
    alternate between two pair, now.

    I am also trying to find an audiologist who will make some custom plugs
    for me.
     
    John Beck, May 26, 2004
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