Head gaskets on old bikes

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Aaron M., Jun 28, 2006.

  1. Aaron M.

    Aaron M. Guest

    I have an 2 old motocross bikes with Sachs 125 2 stroke engines. I've
    found almost no parts for these, but I think I can get one running bike
    between the two engines. My question is, what can I do about the head
    gasket if I can't find a new one? Is it possible to make a new one
    myself out of some material from an auto parts store, or can I use the
    old one and seal it somehow?
     
    Aaron M., Jun 28, 2006
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  2. You can't use sealer on the gasket.

    Go here:

    http://www.headgasket.com/gaskets.html

    They can make a new one for you if they don't have it in stock
    It isn't going to be cheap.

    Keep an eye on Ebay, for example auctions 330001451532
    and 260000715397 might be of interest

    Keep in mind that these are restoration pieces. It is an absolute
    certainty that you could sell what you have and take the money
    plus all the money you would spend getting this one running and
    buy a newer used dirt bike that would work a lot better. If you
    don't have all the tooling to take apart the engine and put it
    back together, you need to sell this to someone who has. This
    isn't a project you can complete with $100 of the most commonly
    used tools from Sears.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 28, 2006
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  3. Aaron M.

    Wudsracer Guest

    If the gasket isn't in bad shape, you may be able to liven it enough
    to be reused by coating both sides with aluminum spray paint, which
    has a high aluminum metal content. If you try this, che3ck it closely
    for leaking after installation.
     
    Wudsracer, Jun 28, 2006
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  4. Aaron M.

    the fly Guest

    If the old gasket is solid copper (as many older 2-strokes
    used) you can anneal it and re-use.
     
    the fly, Jun 28, 2006
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  5. Aaron M.

    Herman Guest

    I made them from Alu-sheet a bit thicker than the one used in the kitchen.

    Herman.
     
    Herman, Jun 29, 2006
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  6. Aaron M.

    emmbeedee Guest

    Or just heat it cherry red with a propane torch then drop it into a
    bucket of water if you'd rather not heat up the house. ;)
     
    emmbeedee, Jul 1, 2006
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  7. Aaron M.

    Les Guest

    Or do it properly, without using a torch or quenching it.

    http://www.headgasket.com/preinstall.html

    Les
     
    Les, Jul 1, 2006
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  8. Aaron M.

    Les Guest

    I read the whole thread. The point is you don't anneal copper by
    quenching it. Just heat it and let it cool. Using a torch isn't best,
    due to uneven heating.
     
    Les, Jul 1, 2006
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  9. Aaron M.

    Les Guest

    Yes it was. My reply was to emmbeedee, then you added your bit about me
    needing to read the whole thread. I'm paying attention, are you?
     
    Les, Jul 2, 2006
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  10. Aaron M.

    SAMMM Guest

    i had some special head gaskets made bu LUBBOCK GASKET co. for my fiat osca.
    they did a real creditable job.
    even better, if you ship the old one, they can copy it very well.
    good luck, sammm
     
    SAMMM, Jul 2, 2006
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