Head bearings on the ZX9R-C1

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by eric the brave, Feb 5, 2006.

  1. So I need to replace the head bearing's on the ZX9R. I thought it was a
    bit weird going into corners. The new tires have highlighted this. So
    armed with new bearings and a garage full of tools one wonders how one
    would support such a motorcycle with the front end removed. So I ask the
    experts for suggestions please.
     
    eric the brave, Feb 5, 2006
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  2. Axle stand or block under the sump/lower frame rails [1], but tie the
    rear wheel to the ground or weight the rear at least. Lock the centre
    stand if it's got a hole in it to do that.

    A garage, you say? Loop of rope round a roof beam to the top frame rail.

    [1] If you have them on that.
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 5, 2006
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  3. My dealership hangs the bike from a ceiling beam.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 5, 2006
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  4. AHA, That's what I've done on the past. So I guess it's the suspend from
    beam trick.
     
    eric the brave, Feb 5, 2006
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  5. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, eric the brave
    I wouldn't, unless your garage roof beams are substantially stronger
    than mine. Remember that you may end up getting medieval on the old
    bearings to get them out...

    The axle stands under the frame rails approach would be my first choice.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 5, 2006
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  6. Does a 9R have proper frame rails?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 5, 2006
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
    Oh. Good point. It might not.

    Sky hook. That's what he needs.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 5, 2006
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  8. eric the brave

    deadmail Guest

    If you suspend a frame by a rope and then get medeival on it to try to
    push the bearings out there's no fucking way they are going to shift;
    the rope will take up the slack.

    He'll need something hard under the headstock unless there's a press or
    something that will draw the bearings out. Looks like a good excuse to
    buy tools to me.
     
    deadmail, Feb 5, 2006
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  9. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,
    typed
    Good point. Up until the garage roof collapses, anyway.
    Indeed, indeed. Or to make them. I made a very nice gadget to press the
    new bearings into my ZZR a couple of years back.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 5, 2006
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  10. eric the brave

    Lozzo Guest

    said...
    I ssupended my ZX9 by ratchet straps from a nurses lift and knocked the
    old bearings out with a long drift and a 2lb hammer. It wasn't
    difficult, but helped by the fact that the ZX9 headstock has two purpose
    built slots to put a drift into that extend the full height of the
    headstock. There's none of this fuckling around trying to stop the drift
    from slipping off the edge of the bearing, every hit counts. From start
    to finish it took about 3 1/2 hours of me working alone to do the job.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 5, 2006
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  11. eric the brave

    Lozzo Guest

    Wicked Uncle Nigel said...
    I use a plastic faced dead blow hammer and get them square before
    whacking hard.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 5, 2006
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  12. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo
    No subtlety, some Spics...

    Be advised a Special Tool exists (and is easily adapted to other sizes).

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 5, 2006
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  13. eric the brave

    Lozzo Guest

    Wicked Uncle Nigel said...
    Will it fit Bandit 600s?
     
    Lozzo, Feb 5, 2006
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  14. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo
    Give me five minutes and it will.

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    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 5, 2006
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  15. eric the brave

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Most people own a 2lb ball pein hammer. They're not a 'special tool'.

    Bearings should either be fitted with a bearing heater (n/a for head
    bearings) or a steel hammer. If you use a drift made of something
    softer than the bearing you run the risk of leaving bits of it in the
    bearing and causing premature failure. You're not going to knock a
    lump off of a bearing tapping it in with a 2lb hammer.Obvious really.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 6, 2006
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  16. Fitting head races isn't usually the problem, in my experience. Getting
    the old ones out is the bastard.

    For races, I drop them in the freezer for a while and then gently tap
    them into the headstock, which I've warmed by wrapping it in rags and
    pouring boiling water on the rags.

    The race that goes on the stem - I put the stem in the freezer and heat
    up the bearing.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 6, 2006
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  17. eric the brave

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 07:21:49 +0000,
    Do you wait for the doctor to go out and then heat up the bearing in a
    pan full of oil? If it helps I can tell you that deep fat fryers are
    no good for this.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 6, 2006
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  18. Heh. I just wave a blowlamp at it.

    The Doctor has now got very suspicious of any bike bits that find their
    way into the house.

    This is after I:

    (a) Removed the enamel from the bath when the caustic soda leaked out of
    the two-stroke silencer I was decoking. In the bath.

    b) Filled the kitchen with acrid smoke, heating up a crankcase half in
    the over, to free a bearing.

    c) Did the same with a fork leg, to get a seal out.

    d) Filled the dishwasher with oily emulsion when I put a 400 Four sump
    in with the crockery, to clean it (quite recently, that was).

    e) *Very* recently, when repairing the Trophy fairing, managed to get
    fragments of glass cloth mixed up with the raisins.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 6, 2006
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