He had "a mere seven seconds" to react.

Paul is just sore because he can't stay in David's B&B

 

My take on it is that if she was behaving badly enough to be assaulted
then she should have been arrested and tried in court rather than
being clobbered.

 

It's not that I just dislike Lefties, I dislike anyone who shows a
blatant disregard for authority and exhibits any form of subversivness
and aggressive behaviour when faced with the Police in that kind of
situation.

If you want to protest by all means do so, but if you're going to be a
pain in the arse, throw liquids about and generally make a nuisance of
yourself and put a copper's life or well-being in danger, then expect
to take a kicking for it. It's dead simple really. If you want to put
fellow protesters in danger then go ahead, the fewer standing at the
end of the day the better.

 

Yet it happened in Comrade Gordon's enlightened Socialist Utopia.

 

Paul, I've spent twelve hours being questioned and given the third
degree over a series of sexual assaults and rapes when I was 17, just
because a witness said the attacker looked Italian or Maltese, and
someone else knew my heritage so grassed me up as a suspect. I was at
work at the local hospital when every assault was carried out in
another part of town.

It's shit, but I didn't go in all guns blazing calling the police
wankers and throwing stuff at them, I acted calmly and politely and
answered their questions truthfully. Eventually they believed my alibis
and story and I was released so they could concentrate on getting the
right person, which they did soon after.

I know what it's like to be falsely accused - and this was in the bad
old days when the Police didn't have the restraints on them treating
suspects like shit. I have enough friends who are coppers to know that
their job is a fucking difficult one as it is, without being in the G20
situation with some stupid bitch making it harder and putting them in
danger.

You've probably guessed that I have absolutely zero sympathy for the
witch who got a slapping, because if she was a peaceful protester the
Police wouldn't have had to act in the manner that they did. We all
have a right to peaceful protest, and knowing you that's exactly what
you would do, but there is always one fucking twat who will spoil it
for the rest, and in this case she got a slap for it... big deal, she
deserved it.

 

Or both perhaps.

Or save some time and trouble and shove them straight into cattle trucks.

 

Yes yes like you would write a jolly stiff letter if someone was begging for
a ruck in the pub or street.

 

<thinks>
picked up by the fuzz...
<vomits>

 

The big difference is that I'm not a cop and I wouldn't even dream of
using a stick (1) on female.

(1) My rule has always been to let a female have one free shot if she
feels she wants to but to expect to pay for the second one.
Fortunately I've never been pushed into having to dish out the
payment.

 

Like the G20 protest type of mob don't have a reputation for trouble.

Though we don't have a Bill of rights we are a broadly democratic country
with a passable legal system (1).

So peaceful protest, yes of course. Though it is fair to ask for forward
notice.

Planned riots such as the G20, Toxteth, NI et all? **** them right in the
eyes. I've seen dozens of occasions televised where I thought that shooting
the cunts on sight would be perfectly acceptable. Particularly those cunts
that call the Fire/Ambulance services then attack them. 12 gauge buckshot
at leg level.

(1) Though we lack an effective opposition and useful 2nd House who can
actually stop things like ATCSA

 

Considering the group in question I don't think Gender allocation is easy or
appropriate.

Perhaps a nice WPC should have used one of these on her
www.brickhousesecurity.com/stun-gun-baton.html

 

Presumably, Adie knocks you out cold with the free one

 

On the other hand, if those authorities are going to treat me like a
**** when I've done absolutely nothing wrong then **** them.

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"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim
that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine

 

I doubt you or any of the people of this newsgroup would behave like
cunts in that situation, so it's not an issue. However, Knowing that a
protest could get violent and that riot police would be in attendance
would be enough for me to seriously reconsider attending one, because
there's always a few fuckwits who will start trouble that I'd
inevitably get caught up in.

If you are one of those fuckwits, then I have no sympathy whatsoever if
you get a bit battered by police or anyone else for that matter.

 

Every time.

 

Lozzo wrote:

Would be enough to keep me miles away.

That's about it, really. I think she crossed the line of acceptable
behaviour, based on the evidence that was presented. I support what
Smellie did, and am frankly grateful, that he was there making those
snap decisions as opposed to me having to do it myself.

Of course, this, in no way, excuses Paul being harassed for taking
photos or a thousand other infringements. The police, as a force, and as
individuals can, and *do* make mistakes. However, we all do, and it's
not appropriate behaviour for adults to respond to those mistakes with
with the kind of stroppy teenage attitude that is so often demonstrated.

What is acceptable behaviour varies according to circumstances. Paul
(within his rights) politely asking plod to go away and continuing to
take photos should not, obviously, be the subject of a tear gassing.

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Quite so. In schoolyard terms, they have a lot more bullying cunts and
are the biggest gang. No contest, really.
It takes an idiot to do what she did and quite frankly, I'm glad there
are still some idiots out there like her.

 

I'm sorry but two wrongs still don't make a right and next time it
could be a completely innocent bystander who gets clubbed because the
cop isn't cut out to make rational decisions under pressure.

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/46954,,blair-peach-30-years-on-death-of-a-political-protestor

Yeah, I know it's a biased report but read it anyway.

How come 18 year old soldiers in a war zone manage to restrain
themselves when they're under a lot more pressure (serious risk of
being killed) than Smellie was yet he fails to carry out his job
properly and all of a sudden it's ok?

I do find myself wondering what the reaction would be if an Asian
tourist was taking those photos. I'm all for defending our country
(with nukes if needs be) but sometimes it does seem as if people are
being given powers without any consideration being given to whether
they know how they should be using those powers.

 

I don't see it as two wrongs, but YMMV (clearly)

Yep. I am aware of it. OTOH he was struck, apparently, en passant, and
in somewhat different circumstances.
Of course, there are parallels.

http://www.wikileaks.org/

I'm sorry?

Oh I agree 100%. Just the circumstances where we draw the line is
obviously different.


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Maybe I should have been clearer and made it plain that I was
comparing British troops and British cops.

I draw the line when people I was brought up to respect fail to live
up to the standards we should reasonably be able to expect of them. No
way would I have complained if he'd pinned the bitch on the floor and
slapped a pair of cuffs on her but (imo) he took the piss and he's got
away with it. I hope that one day he gets a serious kicking in the
street and people walk past and ignore it.