HD Exhaust MOT legal????

First I must say "A friend has a HD".
He has fitted HD "Screaming Eagle"? straight through pipes.
The MOT is up soon and the question is ...
will he need to refit the original, presumably muffled pipes?
Bit trick as the Manchester agent who did the upgrade did not return his
original silencers and has now GONE!
Garry

 

I'd say try it as is. If it fails, bog stock Sportster mufflers are
plentiful and cheap, because /every/ fucker replaces them with something
else. See:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10458&item=7920248280&rd=1

for an example. Alternatively, the local club may have a "MOT" set to lend.

 

lend.
Snip

Pipes are now legal so long as they do not say "not for road use" or other
such words. Failing that the local HOG lot may have a tame MOT chap

AJ

 

Where did you get this total bollocks from? The Dorling Kindersley Book
of Motorcycle Fables?

 

Been told it several times even read it some where as well

 

It's a load of bollocks, like I said.

So you "were told it"? And "you read it somewhere as well"?

For ****'s sake.

 

I wouldn't say it's *total* bollocks, but it is somewhat misleading.
Pipes that are supplied or fitted as original equipment by the
manufacturer are legal as long as they don't specify 'not for road use'
or words to that effect. They don't have to be BS stamped. At least
that's what it says on the poster on the wall in my local MoT station.

 

If bike was manufactured after (I think) 1988 (but JP will confirm date)
the pipes *must* be BS stamped.

Pipes, or pattern pipes, for bikes made before BS stamping was mandatory
don't apply. It's not what this twonk was saying.

 

The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

I *think* there's an exception or two to this rule as not all grey
imports have BS stamps on their exhausts...

 

I'm sure you're wrong on that one. If they're OEM pipes they don't need
a BS or E stamp, even on brand new bikes. They just have to be no
louder than a similar bike with standard exhaust (in the tester's
opinion).

In fact thinking about it I vaguely recall reading somewhere that the
rules changed again recently, & they don't even need to be OEM now,
just 'no louder than a similar bike...' etc. Maybe I'll Google later if
I can be arsed. Of course this may be one of those areas where 'MoT
passable' doesn't mean 'road legal'.

We can definitely agree on that one. The only criteria for pre-BS
(1985?) is that they mustn't be 'excessively loud' (plus the usual not
blowing at joints etc).

 

You can choose your friends you know.

Wow, all that noise with and still dog slow.

Have a look here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7921905644

and 'your friend' happily paid good money to and then rode away from
someone who had just stolen several hundred quid from him?
I suppose he did, as he had already shelled out 15 grand for a chrome
tart's handbag.

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I'm sure you're wrong on this, too. SWK will be along.

 

Most Harley dealers will pass it.

 

Well on the webshyte
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_506856.hcsp

is

d) Exhausts - on motorcycles first used on or after 1 January 1985 the
silencer which forms part of the exhaust system must be either:
(i) that with which the machine was first fitted; or

(ii) clearly and indelibly marked with :-

-the relevant BS marking BS AU 193/T2, BS AU 193a, 1990/T2, BS AU 193a,
1990/T3; or

-the relevant "e" marking to show compliance with EC Directive 89/235;
or the relevant "e" marking to show compliance with Chapter 9 of EC
Directive 97/24; or

-the name or trade mark of the manufacturer or marked with that
manufacturer's part number - relating to it.

The European Community noise limits applicable to new motorcycles first used
from 1 April 1991 are:

Motorcycle Category by cm3
Limits in dB(A)

Up to and including 80
77

Between 80 and 175 (incl.)
79

Above 175
82



Motorcycles approved to EU Directive 97/24/EC, Chapter 9 will be 2dB(A) less
than the above figures.


(Note: the precise regulations for motorcycle exhausts are complex and it is
recommended that they are studied closely to obtain accurate and complete
details of the requirements).

Before buying any replacement parts for systems listed in this section,
riders should check for the relevant marks, where applicable. These will
include an "e" mark for EC Directives, an "E" mark for ECE Regulations and
"BS" for British Standards.

(Note: amateur motorcycle builders may be exempt from some or all of the
requirements)

 

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So AJ was talking bollocks, indeed.

 

Why don't you just read the replies posted yesterday.

 

Four superfluous words there, Molly.