Has anyone seen my tax disc

I recall the excitement of pocket money on a Saturday morning, opening
the piggy bank and sorting the various coins: farthings (I remember
them because they had a wren on the reverse (they weren't legal tender
by then ... just)) tanners, bobs and florins (some were two-shilling
pieces, but the real ones had florin on them somewhere) but the best
of the lot was the octagonal thruppenny bit.

I recall clearly being given a half-crown for my fifth birthday - that
was the most money I'd seen in one piece at that point. Two an' six,
12 anna half new pence now. How values have changed, and not for the
better imho.

 

Only in Victorian times, I think.

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Half pence coins went out in 1984 (sixpences went in 1980).

 

*Old" ha'pennies, you arriviste.

 

Hence the distinction and deliberate use of the word pence.

Anyway what do you mean arriviste? I predate 1971.

 

Probably. They were the ones with proper silver content, I think -
certainly still in circulation in the sixties though.

 

<suspicious>

By how much?

 

coughthreeyearscough

 

Pence is just the plural of penny. It in no way distinguishes the new
curreny from the old. That is down to the word 'New' that was included
on all coins way up into the 1990s, or whenever they started producing
the smaller 5 and 10p coins. Thinking about it, isn't it still
included on those coins that weren't revamped around that time?

Old git.
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Remember the jingles they used in 1971 on the decimalization infoverts:

"Spend your old coppers in sixpenny lots"

 

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote

I think farthings may have still been legal tender when you were born
but they, unlike the crown, which may or may not have been legal tender
I have no way of knowing, were to be found still in circulation.

 

Half crowns were still legal tender when I were a lad. I occasionally used
to get one given by my Grandad. Never saw crowns being used in the shops
though.

 

tallbloke says...

When I was a kid it was all dollars and cents. I lived in Singapore.

 

tallbloke wrote

I think that the five bob bit was only ever one of those coins made for
state occasions and stuff. I really don't give a shit though, money is
never in my pocket long enough to make it worthwhile spending any time
studying it.

The only thing I have ever really studied about money and never
understood, is that phenomena whereby something apparently utterly
valueless, judging by the huge quantities I have to use to trade,
suddenly acquires a purchasing power almost beyond imagination once it
passes in someone else's hands. I can't figure it.

 

And there's another thing - those change machines in supermarkets....

Feed in all your coins and get back notes, minus 5% (or is it 10%?).

Our local Tesco has one with a sign: "Convert your loose change into
cash". Or similar. And there was a couple feeding it like it was a fruit
machine.

Eh?

How fucking thick can people be? "Give us your money and we'll give you
less back."

 

I think you've missed the point.

I have a large jar I chuck loose coppers into, when full it has about £30
in it. I'll be fucked if I'm counting out coppers, bag them up to take
to the bank and queue up.

It's easier and quicker to just take it to the Coin-O-Matic at
Sainsburys, lob it in there and take the 7.5% hit (£2.25).

 

From the Royal Mint:

Denominations of pre-decimal coins and their years of production
Note that the value of some coins fluctuated at different times in
their history, particularly in the reigns of James I and Charles I.
The value of a Guinea fluctuated between 20 and 30 shillings before
being fixed at 21 shillings in December 1717.
Note that these are denominations of British, or earlier English,
coins – Scottish coins had different values.
Five Guineas (originally 100/-, later 105/-) 1668-1753.
Five Pounds (100/-) (Gold) 1826-1990.
Triple Unite (60/-) 1642-1644.
Fifty Shillings (50/-) 1656.
Two Guineas (42/-) 1664-1753.
Two Pounds (40/-) 1823-1937.
Rose Ryal (30/-) 1604-1625.
Guinea (21/-) 1663-1799, 1813
Broad (20/-) 1656.
Sovereign (20/-) 1489-1604; 1817-1914, since 1914 a bullion coin.
Laurel (20/-) 1619-1644?
Unite (20/-) 1604-1619; 1649-1662.
Spur Ryal (15/-) 1604-1625.
Half Guinea (10/6) 1669-1813.
Half Sovereign (10/-) 1544-1553; 1603-1604; 1817-1937, since 1980 a
bullion coin.
Double Crown (10/-) 1604-1619; 1625-1662.
Halfpound (10/-) 1559-1602; 1642-4
Half Unite (10/-) 1642-3.
Half Laurel (10/-)) 1619-1625.
Rose Noble or Ryal (10/-, 15/- from 1553) 1464-1470, 1487, 1553-1603.
Third Guinea (7/-) 1797-1813.
Noble (6/8, raised to 8/4 in 1464) 1344-1464.
Angel (6/8) 1461-1643.
Florin or Double Leopard (6/-) 1344. Demonetised within 1 year.
Quarter Guinea (5/3) 1718, 1762.
Crown (5/-) 1526-1965
Crown of the Rose (4/6) 1526-1547.
Double Florin (4/-), 1887-1890.
Half Noble (3/4, increased to 4/2 in 1464); minted 1346-1438.
Half Angel (3/4, later 5/6), 1470-1619.
Half Florin or Leopard (3/-) 1344. Extremely rare.
Half Crown (2/6), 1526-1969.
Quarter Angel (2/-), 1547-1600. Gold.
Florin (2/-), 1848-1970, circulated until 1993 as the old Ten Pence
coin.
Twenty Pence (1/8 - 2/-) 1257-1265. Gold. Undervalued for its metal
content and extremely rare!
Quarter Noble (1/8), 1344-1470.
Quarter Florin or Helm (1/6), 1344. Gold coin demonetised within 1
year.
Shilling (1/-), 1502-1970, circulated until 1990 as the old Five Pence
coin.
Sixpence (6d), 1547-1970
Groat (4d) silver 1279-1662, 1836-1862 (and thereafter only for
Maundy)
Threepence (3d), silver 1547-1945 (and thereafter only for Maundy),
nickel-brass 1937-1970
Half Groat (2d), 1351-1662
Twopence (2d), silver (inc. Maundy) 1668- current; copper 1797-1798.
Three Halfpence (1.5d), 1561-1582, 1834-1870 *
Penny (1d), 757-1970
Three Farthings (0.75d), 1561-1582.
Halfpenny (0.5d), 1272-1969
Farthing (0.25d), c. 1200-1960
Half Farthing (0.125d), 1828-1868 *
Third Farthing (0.08333d) 1827-1913 *
Quarter Farthing (0.0625d), 1839-1868 *
Scottish coin Bawbee (0.5d), 1539-1697

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Well, there we differ. I put all my loose change, every night, into a
pot, and when it's full, empty it, bag it up in those spiffy little
pastic bags, and take it down to the Abbey National for our holiday
fund. There's never less than 120 quid in the pot, and even when it's
properly bagged, and the extra loose cash thrown back in the pot, it's
70-90 quid.

7.5% of 90 quid is rather more.

Call me tight if you will, but I'm fucked if some pikey with a counting
machine is going to take 7.5% of my cash simply because he changed it
from nickel and cupro-nickel to paper.

 

A whaa-aat!? And what's the asterisk for?

 

A whaa-aat!? And what's the asterisk for?[/QUOTE]

Note: * = denomination issued for use in the colonies, usually in
Ceylon, Malta, or the West Indies, but normally counted as part of the
British coinage.

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