Has anbody ever tried Leak Proof fork seals?

Oh, I do, because I find him very amusing. As I've said elsewhere, he
knows a thing or two. But not as much as he thinks.

 

I *hate* looking for barely-apparent faults.[1]

Cheap, IMHO.

[1] Like yesterday: the headlight went on the 400 Four, which is now our
of winter hibernation. The headlight flasher worked, so it wasn't the
bulb. Got to be the fuse, right? Only the fuse looked A-OK. Hm.
Probably an ignition switch fault. Swapped the fuse anyway, and the
lhight started working. Wtf? Inspected the fuse again. It looked
perfect, but it didn't work. Shook it, and lo and behold, the hairline
and invisible crack widened as the two broken ends pulled apart....

 

Is dope-smoker back?

He IS! I guess he had to renew his stash.

-gc

 

Nah, he's a plain old troll. Probably an old man looking for any sort of
social contact and excitement to fill his empty life because he's
alienated everyone else. If he's so sad as to have to change his posting
address, something's gotta be wrong there.

He may know something, but he bullshits so much that you can't tell
what's true, what's useful, and what's smoke. So listening to him is a
waste of time. You end up having to assume anything he says is wrong. If
he says the sky is blue, I'm having a look out the window first.

Most of it isn't plain bullshit, it looks like stuff he half-remembers
and fakes the rest^W^W^Wfills in the missing details. When you call him
on it, he says "I didn't say that!" and when you really call him on it
he disappears for a week and comes back with a new posting address.

His aimless rambles remind me of my grandfather with Alzeheimer's. :-(

The main thing is there are people that don't know better and might take
his BS for truth and break something or end up on an unsafe bike.

-gc

 

Unfortunately, Google Groups has no way to killfile trolls like TOG,
who has been infesting and undermining
this group since about 2000. He seems to live to make barbed replies
to newbies' questions.

And any response to the troll only encourages him to argue more. Any
worthwhile information becomes lost
in the noise he generates.

 

No, if anybody needs to "chill out", it's YOU.

You get your kicks from following people around the web and arguing
with them and trying to get them to defend
points that have been resolved.

The original poster in the thread that you referred to asked about
ways to repair ABS plastic and I explained thoroughly and the OP
thanked everybody and that was the end of it for him.

 

OTOH, your continuous argumentative responses are what a troll does
best. You enjoy picking nits, and act as if there is something
inherently wrong with a person who doesn't want to debate unimportant
points with you.

When you turn threads into debates, the useful information gets lost,
but the thread doesn't just stop here, it gets picked up by web-based
forums and users who read those forums have to wade through all your
crap too.

 

What does that have to do with my question about whether anybody has
ever used Leak Proof fork seals?

Why don't you post stuff like that to UKRM, and leave this space for
technical questions and answers?

Or, you could reserve your off-topic anecdote for another time, when
somebody asks "Why doesn't my headlight work?"

 

Yes, there *is* something wrong. The problem is with the troll-filled
web. It's possible for evil-doers to track down innocent people and do
them harm by broadcasting their personal information on the web.
However, gmail doesn't allow miscreants to discover where gmail users
live.

Reading or responding to what you have to say is usually a waste of
time, because you have so much to learn.

If you are challenging other users' responses to the original poster's
question just because you
like to argue and debate, you're misusing this group.

The worst thing about your argumentative responses is that useful
information gets lost and web-based forums
pick up on these threads and other users have to wade through your
self-indulgent crap.

I can usually identify a self-absorbed user by the fact that they have
a signature line that indicates their membership
on e-mail lists, the vehicles they own, or some irrelevant quote.

 

I think the lip moves relative to the slider. My brother tried some of these on his TR5MX way back
when. My recollection was that the lip was connected to the outer rim with a flexible diaphragm or
membrane. Initial movement was unencumbered by the static friction of the seal. Once beyond that
initial movement, you had inertia to deal with the increased friction from the tighter seal.

 

Leak Proof claims that their seals can be installed with your fingers,
that it "floats" in the seal cavity, rather than being a light press
fit.

 

Well, in spite of posting Leak Proof's advertising copy in my original
message, I am NOT touting their product, I'm asking for
consumer experience.

�It's not as if pounding

Yes, I have gently tapped fork seals in with PVC pipe myself, but Leak
Proof claims (or claimed) that their specially designed seal responds
to hydraulic pressure spikes by floating in the seal cavity.

Yes, and I questioned the possibility of leaks around the seal's outer
periphery too.

 

Only what I said earlier: I believe in a leak-proof seal like I
believe in a crash-proof plane and an unsinkable ship. Manufacturers
have made extravagant claims for their products since the dawn of
time, and this is no exception.

As for: "fork gaiters may have kept leakage from occuring by excluding
road grime" - there's no "may" about it. Gaiters or shrouds prolong
the life of seals immeasurably, in the same way that an enclosure
prolongs the life of a chain.

I've run a series of old Hondas with shrouded forks, for years and
years (decades, even), and never, repeat *never* had a seal go. I put
gaiters on my brand new RD350 power-valve, and the seals (and
stanchions) were untouched and perfect when I sold the bike eight
years later.

Anyone wanting to give seals a long life should look at gaiters, not
seals. End of story.

 

wrote

If I put a seal in front of a gator I don't think the seals life
expectancy would be enhanced, on the whole.

I bet you a squillion Groats it isn't.