Hanging off v GYKD

As I understand it, or not, the idea of hanging off is to shift your
centre of gravity enabling the bike to be cornered with less lean and
greater grip. Also, as I understand it, the centre of gravity of a
person is somewhere around the small of the back. So what is the point
of sticking one's knee out?

As a kid I used to instinctively stick my knee out cornering on a push
bike. That still happens at times on my ZR-7, it's an unconscious
action. Yet, when I make a conscious effort to hang off, my knee seems
to stay in, I just don't seem to hang off and stick my knee out at the
same time.

So, in terms of cornering - as opposed to looking cool - am I missing
anything by leaving the knee alone?

 

Being true to your posting name I see. You have no real concept of the
purpose of a titanium knee slider do you?

 

Thanks Cowman, no the moniker wasn't an accident - I am a clueless
knownowt. However, I have no problem understanding the appearance of
GYKD, hence
anything by leaving the knee alone?

 

You understand wrongly.
Having the bike a bit more upright helps stop things touching down and
stops you riding off the edge of the tread but doesn't give more grip,
except that tread grips better than sidewall or silencer.

 

Probably.

Others much better equipped than I will be along shortly to demonstrate
in text what could be much more easily achieved with three bananas and a
pipe cleaner and tell you why.

 

Ahhh. That makes sense as I do tend to crap myself mid-corner when my
footpeg grounds.

So what's the point of the knee then? Is it just for show?

 

Only when Rossi does it.

 

It helps you get yer ar$e out which is, as you say, where your centre of
gravity is.

 

I believe this makes it clear:
http://www.superbike.co.uk/imageBank/r/Rossi Yamaha action.jpg

If the knee wasn't out, it would make for a very awkward position, &
tend to make your upper body face away from the corner rather than
towards it. If you're not hanging off that far, your knee doesn't need
to be sticking out as far (unless you're trying to get it down, natch).

As you didn't ask what the point of getting your knee *down* is, I'll
assume you know.

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It's a girl thing.

http://sportsbike.org/technical/pictures/dnc-16-05-04hms.jpg

 

Probably. You see a lot of people that are so focussed on the knee
down bit that the bike itself remains almost upright. I eventually
got my KD when I gave up trying to do it and concentrated on going
faster.

 

That'd be quite impressive if the bike was leaning over.

And it's time to get a new pic for this type of thread Miss Molly.


--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

Oooh!

<fx: jumps on bandwagon>

Yes, I suspect that's why I've never done it.

 

Well I need to do summat different. As said earlier, I fair kak m'sen
when I ground the footpegs and it really throws me of my stride. As my
weight is on the seat the pegs can just pivot up and it's not
disastrous. However, when I have tried to hang right off,
concentrating on getting my front over as well as my backend, I've
still grounded the pegs - so I must be doing something horribly wrong.
With all my weight on the peg the effect was very pronounced and
scared the life out of me. All through this process I was
concentrating on the hanging off and really have little concept of
what my knee was doing. Well, I prolly had little concept of owt
really.

 

Sure.

While you're here: what's the going rate for pre-scuffed kneesliders?

 

Daylight robbery!

I'll just attack my own with the the angle-grinder as usual, thanks very
much.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ

Well, duh! Anyone with 'proper' scuffed knee sliders would be going
slower than him, so they'd never get to see them, would they?

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart)
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ

Well, you should have *said*. If you're all vague, how am I supposed to
know what you're on about? Eh? Eh? EH?

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart)
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ

I'm doing an NPPL, so I'm not sure how helpful I can be. It's a more
restrictive licence (can't be used outside UK airspace[1]), can't add
instrument / night ratings, etc, etc) but it's a bit cheaper to get and
it's good for sugar-mongs as the medical requirements are lower.

Joining a syndicate? "If it floats, flies or fucks...".


[1] Not sure about Pahnd Island
--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (Fallen apart)
Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer Norton 850 Commando
Kawasaki GTR1400

 

I'll have to get a seriously scuffed pair for Laura's leathers.