Hack a region-controlled DVD player [0]

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by vulgarandmischevious, Aug 18, 2006.

  1. Arse.

    The Sony DAV-DX155 I just bought is Region 1 only. And, obviously, I
    have tons of Region 2 DVDs.

    Can anyone tell me how to hack it to be multi-region?


    [0] a.k.a. "Paging people who can work google"
     
    vulgarandmischevious, Aug 18, 2006
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  2. In uk.rec.motorcycles, vulgarandmischevious belched forth and ejected
    the following:
    Your exact model isn't on there but have a look about half way down the
    page.

    http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks.php?dvdplayer=sony&hits=50
    &Search=Search
     
    Whinging Courier, Aug 18, 2006
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  3. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Whinging Courier belched forth and ejected the
    following:
    Forget that. I've just read the hack...
     
    Whinging Courier, Aug 18, 2006
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  4. vulgarandmischevious

    Higgins@work Guest

    This guy is generally pretty helpful
    http://www.dvdchips.co.uk/thedvdforums/
     
    Higgins@work, Aug 18, 2006
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  5. vulgarandmischevious

    Gyp Guest

    I don't know the DAV-DX155 itself, but as a general rule of thumb, R2
    players have the potential to become region-free players, but other
    region players do not.

    The reason behind this is that region 2 is the only region that has both
    PAL and NTSC, so R2 players need to be able to play either. Region 1
    players only have to do NTSC, so typically can't cope with PAL disks,
    even if the regional protection were to be removed.
     
    Gyp, Aug 18, 2006
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  6. vulgarandmischevious

    Higgins@work Guest

    I would suggest it's more related to the retail price and the brand
    name than the region. Cheap and cheerful players will pretty much play
    anything from anywhere while the household names[1] will make it more
    difficult to hack them. It was something all the temporary expats
    researched heavily when I was living in Canada.

    [1]Particularly the likes of Sony who are heavily involved in content
    as well as playback equipment.
     
    Higgins@work, Aug 18, 2006
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  7. vulgarandmischevious

    antonye Guest

    Plus the fact that Sony are part of a [film] studio, so
    it is in their interest to keep the regional (and copy)
    protection as tight as possible so you buy more disks.
     
    antonye, Aug 18, 2006
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  8. I politely disagree. :) Especially as it's a marketing ploy.

    The US has R1, and no one there has a clue about owt outside the US, and nor
    do they care. So, TVs only tend to do NTSC and there is no commercial
    imperative to do hacks for a R1 DVD player or to do it by default. They do
    exist - many SF fen in the US buy multi standard TVs (dammed expensive!) and
    hackable players, so as to get *our* SF programmes on DVD. 'Cos we get them,
    and they don't.

    But the region thing and TV standards aren't connected. Think about it;
    PAL/NTSC/SECAM is wholly irrelevant if you play on a laptop, or whatever,
    rather than a TV. But, because of the region encoding, you still need to
    hack the playback software to play an R2 on a US laptop, for example.
    There's no technical relationship between the TV standard and the region
    encoding.

    And R2 has PAL, yes, but the NTSC support is actually for a pseudo PAL
    output. What's more Europe has a second PAL standard, plus SECAM.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Aug 18, 2006
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  9. vulgarandmischevious

    Gyp Guest

    Erm... I think some players will play NTSC in pseudo PAL (I know my old
    Samsung did), but I think they all have to be able to output NTSC disks
    in NTSC for those areas of R2 (Japan?) that have NTSC and not PAL
     
    Gyp, Aug 18, 2006
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  10. Hm. I googled:

    Region 1 - The U.S., U.S. territories and Canada
    Region 2 - Europe, Japan, the Middle East, Egypt, South Africa, Greenland
    Region 3 - Taiwan, Korea, the Philippines, Indonesia, Hong Kong
    Region 4 - Mexico, South America, Central America, Australia, New Zealand,
    Pacific Islands, Caribbean
    Region 5 - Russia (okay, former Russia), Eastern Europe, India, most of
    Africa, North Korea, Mongolia
    Region 6 - China

    I googled again:

    "One more note: Just because a DVD is coded for a specific region doesn't
    mean it will play in all countries assigned that region. There is the added
    layer of incompatibility imposed by the great and wonderful powers that be.
    You also have to make sure the video formatting is the same. For example,
    both The UK and Japan are included in Region 2. Unfortunately, UK users the
    PAL video formatting while Japan is NTSC. In order to play a disc intended
    for the UK in Japan you will also have to have equipment that recognizes the
    video format. There are converters that will permit the mixing of PAL and
    NTSC so if you plan on using discs from different countries consider
    investing in such an additional box."

    This sorta implies that players sold in Japan, as you say, will need to
    output true NTSC. I don't beleive that all UK players neccessarily output in
    true NTSC, but I could be wrong. With video, it used to be too expensive to
    support true NTSC rather than pseudo PAL, whcih is why my late almented much
    used Samsung converter deck cost a gradn!

    I do, by the way, send home burned DVDs across the pond, but chums play them
    on laptops, so no issue there.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Aug 18, 2006
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  11. vulgarandmischevious

    Dan White Guest

    The first Sony DVD player I ever bought had a jumper on the main board
    marked "REGION LOCK" in nice big letters :)
     
    Dan White, Aug 18, 2006
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  12. Cunts. I think I'll take the fucker back.
     
    vulgarandmischevious, Aug 19, 2006
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  13. My research of the last few days suggests that this is bollocks.
    This is true.
    I know.
     
    vulgarandmischevious, Aug 19, 2006
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  14. Rilly? Most of my Merkin chums would disagree, ime, it's why my converter
    deck was so popular. I did say US TVs, by the snip.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Aug 19, 2006
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  15. vulgarandmischevious

    Higgins@work Guest

    In Canada, I found it very difficult to track down a TV that would play
    PAL. Even at the high end most TVs were NTSC only. They may actually
    have displayed PAL but, if so, it was rarely detailed in the spec.
     
    Higgins@work, Aug 19, 2006
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  16. Every one I looked at said it would do PAL. I was looking at LCDs,
    though, not anything else. Maybe that makes a difference.
     
    vulgarandmischevious, Aug 19, 2006
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  17. I'm in a similar position when it comes to international standards -
    Irish telly has a mix of VHF and UHF, and it used to be a UK telly was
    no good here on its own. Nowadays a lot of stuff has a universal tuner
    and choice of PAL/SECAM/NTSC so can be used anywhere and that suits me
    just fine. For the makers, it's often cheaper to use just one board for
    the whole world.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 19, 2006
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  18. More expensive, so perhaps that influences it. Or maybe the US has realised
    that there is life beyond NTSC. Or maybe it's just easier to do it for LCD -
    actually, that would make sense.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Aug 19, 2006
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