Guzzi service and Munroe

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by West Coast Joe, Apr 29, 2004.

  1. Greetings:

    Just wondering if anyone here owns a Guzzi and has had it serviced at
    Munroe's? I have had my '99 Bassa (Cal-Special) serviced there a
    couple of times (I'd do it myself but it's still under warranty)and
    have had to take it back each time to re-adjust the idle and to make
    the popping on de-cel go away. Neither of which were present before
    the "service". Now it not only is exhibiting those same problems
    again, but it also has a cough at 3k rpms. I'm reluctant to bring it
    back to them, just to once again have it fixed like it shudda been the
    first time.
    What say you?
    And is there another (perhaps independent)in the area who can be
    counted on for good Guzzi service? North bay is preferred.
    Thanks,
    WCJ
     
    West Coast Joe, Apr 29, 2004
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  2. West Coast Joe

    Eric Murray Guest

    Doing it yourself won't invalidate the warranty.


    Eric
     
    Eric Murray, Apr 30, 2004
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  3. West Coast Joe

    Alan Moore Guest

    Hmm. I had exactly the opposite impression, back when I had a Guzzi.
    It's been a few years now though...

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
     
    Alan Moore, Apr 30, 2004
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  4. I understand that, and have done some of the stuff myself, but I
    figured I'd have them give her the final once-over before it expired.
    I will be doing it myself from here on out.
     
    West Coast Joe, Apr 30, 2004
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  5. West Coast Joe

    Phil Scott Guest

    you dont understand the realities of motors... or humans...you are whining
    about the technicians for sport...thats not progress.

    Perfection is not where to be found but you can try MotoJava its at the base
    of the 9th st off ramp going into SF off of 101 or maybe its the 4th off
    ramp...call em on the phone.

    Its a one man shop... he will have a vested interest in your bitching and
    whining.

    Phil Scott
     
    Phil Scott, May 1, 2004
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  6. EXCUSE ME!? Whining my ass!
    MotoJava...I don't think I'd bring my bicycle there. Not after they
    totally screwed up not one, but TWO Ducati's belonging to two
    different people at two different times. One so bad that Ducati
    actually refunded the money to the owner because it could no longer be
    trusted to run through it's warranty period. Long story, but if you're
    interested, I'd be glad to elablorate. But if you have any financial
    interest in that joint, I don't think you're going to want to have the
    story aired in public!
    I wouldn't bring them anything Italian, that's for damn sure.
     
    West Coast Joe, May 3, 2004
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  7. West Coast Joe

    Phil Scott Guest


    One thing is obvious...doing business with you could be the kiss of
    death.

    Id suggest that with your need for utimate quality and your own
    impressive competence that you do your own work in that case.

    Its a bullet proof solution... unless you have a need for victims.
    Then
    Id suggest you try an HD dealership Im sure they would cater to your
    needs.


    Phil Scott
     
    Phil Scott, May 3, 2004
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  8. Hey, if you have *luck* at MotoJava, then go for it. I'm just stating
    a fact that IMHO they (or he) aren't qualified to work on Ducatis.
    This is from exeprience not of my own, but two close friends, both
    with different problems, who both had their bikes screwed up by this
    amature.
    As for Munroe's, they have been real good to me in the past, and I
    seldom hear anything bad about them. They *have* made good on other
    mal-performed services but the question is, why can't they get it
    right the first time?

    By the way, I'm glad for you that you accept shoddy, below par work
    for YOUR bike. After all, it IS your bike...and YOUR money.
     
    West Coast Joe, May 3, 2004
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  9. West Coast Joe

    Phil Scott Guest

    is obvious...doing business with you could be the kiss of
    I do my own work... I mentioned them for the good advice I got on suspension
    mods and the fact that an owner operator has a vested interest in satisfying
    the customer that you dont always see with larger shops.

    Gracious of you though to go out of your way to trash them..as you did
    Monroe... what an asshole. You do no shop a favor with your business...you
    are a total liablity to them.

    they might make $50 net doing work for you at the risk of being trashed if
    you trashed up mind decides they did the job wrong.... many shops try to
    turn people of your bent away at the door. They make 50 dollars and you
    then bad mouth them to 10 or 20 people.

    Ive been around for 63 years...what Ive found is that types like you are out
    to make other people wrong and to damage their business if things are not
    just perfectly to your liking. Not impressive.




    How gracious of you...given your general attitude and remarks about Monroe,
    a first rate shop...I doubt if your trash job on this shop would hold any
    water either... the guy stays quite busy obviously with satisfied repeat
    customers .... well except for you jerks if they even went there.

    Because talent is getting to be in really short supply these days...payroll
    and city taxes and rents are sky high, and unless you can pay $75,000 a year
    will have a real hard time finding bullet proof talent...even then its tough
    as costs on man run about 40% more than his wage.

    To be competitive in the market all shops are forced to use less well
    trained and often less well motivated talent and those guys are NOT perfect
    (gasp)...

    so jerks like you can then go in and whine about it and do damage to their
    business.

    what a guy.


    Im smart enough to do it myself for over 40 years...or in rare cases on my
    race bikes deal with the best pro's..... you whiners with no clue get pot
    luck on whomever the shop is lucky enough to find for 20 bucks an hour...and
    those are not always rocket scientists.... thats YOUR problem...not thiers.

    No kid starts off brilliant and experienced Your trashing of them is not at
    all warranted or decent...

    If you want world class service anounce on the NG that you will pay a moon
    lighter $85 an hour and you will have no shortage of qualified
    applicants..or you can do the same if you offer a big shop sufficient added
    payment so they can afford to put their best man on your crappy little job
    all day.... personally. then with your attitude you will be lucky if he
    even faintly gives a rats ass about your bike.

    Not too many top level guys cater to jerks like you.




    Phil Scott
     
    Phil Scott, May 5, 2004
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  10. SNIP All your self-serving, self-loving,
    break-your-arm-patting-yourself-on-the-back bullshit:

    You take the cake in twisting things so far out of shape it's
    laughable.

    Blaming bad service on the cost of doing business in The City...what a
    joker!

    It's obvious you get taken at every turn, and then turn your red-faced
    cheek the other way and contiunue to take it in the sorts, while
    making excuses for crappy work done by under paid "trainees". You're
    all over th map, Phil.
    Take your meds and get back to us when you're feeling better.

    Say, I know a guy who'll do work around your house for big bucks. He
    won't actually get anything done, and will probably break a few things
    while there, but hey, you know the drill. Want I should send him over?
     
    West Coast Joe, May 5, 2004
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  11. West Coast Joe

    Phil Scott Guest

    I see you dont read well...... I do my own work except for the race bike
    motor work. and that goes to a pro.

    and... the cost of doing business in the city is driving the qualified
    labor shortage ... regardless your snotty attitude to the contrary. Its all
    over the SF news papers on in TV reports on economic conditions in the
    city...I deal with other business owners in the bay area every day... its a
    huge problem. Many corporations are even leaving the *state due to high
    costs of operation, bogus tax rates and high insurance. That was part of
    Swartzennegers platform.

    You are apparently not up to speed on a lot of things...including the larger
    human dynamics. Are you aware that 50 million! (baby boomers) are
    retiring from a US work force (not population but work force) of 150 million
    over the next 4 years! A total crisis. talent is coming into short
    supply fast now.

    Soon there may be mug shots of morons like you posted at all service
    agencies... no one with a brain would even discuss yer snitty little problem
    with you. Even today if you go into a shop displaying your attitude they
    will tell you that they are too busy or put you on 6 month waiting list just
    to get rid of your ass.

    Maybe thats your problem now.... people detest the crap you put out and are
    trying to drive you off to another shop. I sure as hell would...except Id
    be a bit more blunt about it.


    Buy some tools son....learn how to do your own work. Or you will be
    screwed by those you seek to abuse.


    Phil Scott
     
    Phil Scott, May 5, 2004
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  12. Speaking of not comprehending reading...

    And again, all over the map...take it to ba.politics.

    Maybe you'll find a little friend to play with over there.

    In the mean time, do yourself a favor and don't respond to my posts, will ya?
     
    West Coast Joe, May 5, 2004
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