Guy Martin Tea revisited

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    Pip Luscher Guest

    To start, I'm a loose-leaf tea inna teapot sort.

    At work we have a coffee machine and a 'very hot but not boiling'
    water kettle thing. Tea comes in teabags and has always tasted sort of
    papery, so I tend to drink coffee.

    This week I tried the Guy Martin method. It goes against all the Laws
    of the Noble Art of Tea making, but, somehow, it does improve the
    flavour - the papery taste almost disappears. My world is in turmoil.

    I'm not convinced by his emulsion theory, mind.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 7, 2009
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    Eiron Guest

    What's that then?
     
    Eiron, Jul 7, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    He's only a truck fitter, after all.
     
    ogden, Jul 7, 2009
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    Gavsta Guest

    IN THE teacup, two chemical reactions take place which alter the protein
    of the milk: denaturing and tanning. The first, the change that takes
    place in milk when it is heated, depends only on temperature.
    'Milk-first' gradually brings the contents of the cup up from
    fridge-cool. 'Milk-last' rapidly heats the first drop of milk almost to
    the temperature of the teapot, denaturing it to a greater degree and so
    developing more 'boiled milk' flavour. The second reaction is analogous
    to the tanning of leather. Just as the protein of untanned hide is
    combined with tannin to form chemically tough collagen/tannin complexes,
    so in the teacup, the milk's protein turns into tannin/casein complexes.
    But there is a difference: in leather every reactive point on the
    protein molecule is taken up by a tannin molecule, but this need not be
    so in tea. Unless the brew is strong enough to tan all the casein
    completely, 'milk-first' will react differently from 'milk-last' in the
    way it distributes the tannin through the casein. In 'milk-first', all
    the casein tans uniformly; in 'milk-last' the first molecules of casein
    entering the cup tan more thoroughly than the last ones. If the
    proportions of tannin to casein are near to chemical equality,
    'which-first' may determine whether some of the casein escapes tanning
    entirely. There is no reason why this difference should not alter the taste.

    --
    Gavin.

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    Gavsta, Jul 7, 2009
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    ginge Guest

    emulsion shmulsion. Leave the teabag in for at least 3 or 4 minutes,
    then add a slight splash of milk, so the tea is more or less
    terracotta coloured. that's proper tea.
     
    ginge, Jul 7, 2009
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    CT Guest

    Disgusting, that's what that is. You can tell you're Northern!
     
    CT, Jul 8, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    It's tea. It's shit, however you make it.
     
    ogden, Jul 8, 2009
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    Jérémy Guest

    etc.

    IOW, don't put milk in perfectly good tea. Disgusting stuff.
     
    Jérémy, Jul 8, 2009
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    Dave Benj Guest

    Only one tea bag?
     
    Dave Benj, Jul 8, 2009
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    Malc Guest

    AOL. Tea's not tea unless the spoon can stand up in it.
     
    Malc, Jul 8, 2009
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    darsy Guest

    green tea ican be pretty good, but I suppose you'd categorise that
    under your "gook food" catch-all.

    Now, coffee, that's a shitty beverage. I can't understand how I
    managed to drink it for so many years.
     
    darsy, Jul 8, 2009
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    darsy Guest

    "factory tea".

    teabag in a cup, left to stand for at least 5 minutes, then 2
    spoonfuls of sugar stirred in. No milk.
     
    darsy, Jul 8, 2009
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  13. Intel's HQ has a coffee bar (called Java - what else), and they do a
    Chai which I love, nice and spicy and sweet.

    I like a good coffee after a meal, but don't drink the stuff on a
    regular basis, I think half the problem is that there is so much shite
    coffee out there that you actually forget how nice a good one actually
    is.
     
    Brownz (via Gurgle Gruppez), Jul 8, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    Drinks tea, hates coffee, owns a cat.

    What are you, a bender?
     
    ogden, Jul 8, 2009
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    darsy Guest

    I don't "own" a cat - I "barely tolerate" it.
    Don't think so. Had sex with a woman as recently as this morning, and
    never had sex with a man - so probably not a bender.
     
    darsy, Jul 8, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    Yeah yeah, just like you didn't own a Jeep.

    The ladyboy doth protest too much.
     
    ogden, Jul 8, 2009
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  17. Ah, now that might be why my white mug always has a dark tanning line.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 8, 2009
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Depends on the tea. I wouldn't put milk in green tea but do in the
    average cup of Ty-phoo. I also put milk in Earl Grey, on the rare
    occasions that I drink it.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 9, 2009
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    Jérémy Guest

    As I said, disgusting stuff.

    For the Ty-phoo, I recommend a pinch of a mixture of ground ginger,
    cardamom and star anise. They sell it on the market stalls in Zanzibar,
    although when I run out I'm going to have to figure out the proportions and
    make it myself, unless the UR extends to Stone Town.

    For Earl Grey, just don't put milk in it. Bergamot's a citrus fruit, for
    heaven's sake. You wouldn't put lemon and milk anywhere near each other,
    would you?
     
    Jérémy, Jul 10, 2009
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    Adrian Guest

    <considers popularity of lemon as a pancake topping, considers
    ingredients of batter>
     
    Adrian, Jul 10, 2009
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