In uk.rec.motorcycles, Ace said: [QUOTE] Pfah. Jim, you mustn't listen to all these wusses. Even in just a couple of layers and medium-weight leathers & gloves, in 75miles at say, 80mph, your core body temperature will hardly have dropped at all. It's more than likely that even the extremities will still have some feeling left in them, unless your gloves are very very thin, and the chances of developing frostbite are frankly miniscule. Kids these days. Don't know the're born...[/QUOTE] Actually, you're smack on there. Gawd knows how many years ago, I used to ride to work in a pair of jeans, trainers and a leather jacket in winter [1]. Funnily enough it was only my hands I remember getting cold! [1] I'm poor now, but then I was poorer.