Gruesome reading

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    Monkey Guest

    Monkey, Dec 18, 2005
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    Antoine Guest

    Im sorry for my indifference but in respect of the bike collision example
    that is something of a generalisation applying for the unlucky few?

    In my case I had a collision side on with a car at 25-30Mph and got
    catapulted rather fortunately OVER the tank, missed the car rear completely,
    and landed nicely on my front suffering only a scratched visor, and
    leathers. If however the speed was any different and I hit the central
    pillar of the car; well that would be another story.
    You can't treat all accidents the same, as by merits thats the complication
    of traffic accidents - its very difficult to find two exactly the same.
    And sometimes, a SLOW accident can be as bad if not more deadly than a fast
    one.
    A gruesome read nonetheless!
     
    Antoine, Dec 18, 2005
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    Eiron Guest

    Eiron, Dec 18, 2005
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    BGN Guest

    There's a bit of a counting problem here:

    "Death in less than a second"

    (Motorcycle)

    15ms
    25ms
    63ms
    55ms
    80ms
    105ms

    The motorcycle and rider fall motionless to the road.

    TIME ELAPSED - 1.42 seconds

    Bit of time travel and time bending there.
     
    BGN, Dec 18, 2005
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    Kevin Seal Guest

    Kevin Seal, Dec 18, 2005
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    TMack Guest

    TMack, Dec 18, 2005
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    Rach Guest

    It's bollox.
    The actual crash and injuries will occur in less than 0.1 of a second.

    Without been arsed to work it out.
    At 55mph you will be travelling approx 80 feet per second.
     
    Rach, Dec 18, 2005
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    Rach Guest

    Quite a bit slower actually.
    100KPH
     
    Rach, Dec 18, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    I'm pretty sure that's almost word-for-word from a "belt up" leaflet
    that I picked up in a motorway service station around the time that the
    mandatory front seat belt law came in.

    I remember it, partly because Timothy Spall was filling his SIII XJ6 up.

    But after that, on the way home, I read the leaflet many, many times. I
    remember being confused about the part with the "legs, ramrod-straight,
    snap at the knee joint". I was reading it, in a car, and I look around,
    and thought that whomever wrote that could never have been in a car
    before.
     
    Ben Blaney, Dec 18, 2005
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    TMack Guest

    Bollocks - just because the speedo stopped at 100kph it doesn't mean that
    was the actual speed at impact. Lobbing an Audi at a tree at only 100kpk or
    (62 mph approx) would not result in that amount of damage.
     
    TMack, Dec 18, 2005
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    AndrewR Guest

    I'm sure we've discussed this before and come to the conclusion that this
    isn't a real set of accident photos.

    The damage to the car is all wrong - how does a complete engine block just
    jump out and land nowhere near the rest of the car, for example?

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    AndrewR, Dec 18, 2005
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    Depends on the tree dunnit?

    Some of them can be right nasty when the sap is rising.
     
    steve auvache, Dec 18, 2005
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    TMack Guest

    When the car is airborne, hits a tree sideways on at 100mph or more and
    wraps around the tree - the inertia of the engine rips it out of the front
    of the car, just before the car rips in half (initially assisted by the
    inertia of the engine whilst it was still attached). Accidents of this
    severity are very rare and all kind of weird things can happen. Weird
    things often happen in accidents.........
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?X2215265C
    In a perverse kind of way you might see the engine as evidence of it being
    genuine - who would go to all that trouble and yet put the engine in what
    appears to be an unlikely position? Of course another possibility is that
    the engine was removed/moved after the crash. Having said that it could be
    fake. Anything/everything that we see as image rather than reality might
    have been faked.
     
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    AndrewR Guest

    Yup, both Kevs sound like pompous twats.

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    sweller Guest

    1983, are you sure?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/media/video/otdvideo/83/01/31/884
    _31-01-83?size=4x3&bgc=6699CC&nbram=1&nbram=1&bbram=1&news=1

    Your point still stands though.
     
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    sweller Guest

    Was a bit of a mess. It's from the BBC site, contemporary report on the
    front seat belt law from January 1983. Fantastic footage of Frank Bough,
    Tory under minister for frumpy dresses and 70's motors.

    On this page:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/31/newsid_2505000
    /2505871.stm

    Not that that's any better.

    Rear seat belts were 1991, which may be when you mean.
     
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    sweller Guest

    Ohh, I thought you meant you were filling a car at the petrol station, as
    well as Timothy Spall.

    In that case I'll just mention I've met Eric Morecambe.
     
    sweller, Dec 19, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

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