Group judgement.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Steve Parry, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. Steve Parry

    Steve Parry Guest

    Steve Parry, Aug 24, 2004
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    wessie Guest

    Steve Parry wrote in
    What part of "Sandra Subacchi, prosecuting, said it appeared to police that
    the man was in control of the vehicle" did you not understand? He was
    observed from a helicopter which probably had a video camera.

    There appear to be other discrepencies between the statements from the
    police and the convicted man. Who do you think the magistrate is going to
    believe?
     
    wessie, Aug 24, 2004
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  3. Steve Parry

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    Done it in the past, not a pleasant experience but I'm not aware if its
    illegal?

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    Steve Parry, Aug 24, 2004
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    If it was the case that he was riding then would'nt they have
    also done him for no insurance/RFL/unregistered vehicle etc as
    well?


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    Steve Parry, Aug 24, 2004
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    Sheese if thats the case then there's been a few times when I've broken
    the law by having a tipsy pillion on board.

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    Steve Parry, Aug 24, 2004
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    That I can see ..

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    Steve Parry, Aug 24, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Prolly because it would be difficult to prove. In any event, I'd
    suggest that even if the 6-y-o was driving, the father could still be
    said to be 'in control' of it.
     
    Ace, Aug 24, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    I'm not SWK, but I think you're wrong here.
     
    Ace, Aug 24, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    The pillion isn't subject to alcohol limits but mustn't be in such state
    a to interfere with the control of the machine. That's my understanding
    of the law.
     
    sweller, Aug 24, 2004
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    wessie Guest

    sweller wrote in
    Would be covered under the "without due care" or "dangerous driving" laws I
    would think.
     
    wessie, Aug 24, 2004
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    wessie Guest

    Doesnotcompute wrote in @localhost.talkaboutmotorcycles.com:
    If the choice was that or be driven by a 6 year old then I'd go for the
    pissed pillion
     
    wessie, Aug 24, 2004
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    The ZX will have to go ... to be replaced with a white Pan ;o)

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    Steve Parry, Aug 24, 2004
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    prawn Guest

    I have done once or twice. My fave was when SWMBO flapped her arms while
    I was traversing London Bridge singing "Jingle Bells" at the top of her
    voice [1]. I did suggest she calmed down, mind.

    [1] Guess who'd junst been to an office Christmas party.
     
    prawn, Aug 24, 2004
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    HooDooWitch Guest

    Just get them legless ... and keep some strong bunjees handy.
     
    HooDooWitch, Aug 24, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Where's that Daily Mail headline generator website?
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 24, 2004
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    TMack Guest

    His son, who was driving, was SIX years old. He was very lucky not to be
    prosecuted for putting the child at risk. It is an offence to be drunk in
    charge of a child under the age of 7 years in a highway, public place or
    licensed premises. Then there is the little matter of the child being
    underage to drive, no license, not being insured etc which his father was
    condoning. As the child was below the age of responsibility and his father
    was clearly complicit in the act, the father was responsible for the
    situation, hence his liability under the drink/drive laws.

    Tony
     
    TMack, Aug 24, 2004
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    Catman Guest

    You bow before perps? Shouldn't you judege them, or summat?
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    Catman, Aug 24, 2004
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    TonyH Guest

    Once again the Police & Judiciary (or more commonly lay magistrate wankers)
    show them selves as being completely drunk with their powers. maybe they
    should have the breath test?
     
    TonyH, Aug 24, 2004
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    TonyH Guest

    If it was difficult to prove then it should have been inadmissible.
     
    TonyH, Aug 24, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    And finally, a *ding*.
     
    Pip, Aug 24, 2004
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