Group is starting to suck

The Astrodome used to let bikes enter and park right up next to the dome
for free. It was great, get in free and get out while the rest of the
traffic gridlocked. notice the use of past tense now that we have
Reliant Stadium <gag, choke>. I'm sick of sports palaces that "won't
cost any tax payer money". riiiiiiiiight, you betcha.....

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jam

'73 R75/5 Toaster (not for sale)
'99 R1100RT (in use)
'00 FLHRCI (sold!)
Iron Butt Assoc, WATR 3X, EIEIO, AEIOU etc blah blah

 

there's an interesting point.

what do you think of ppl using handicapped spaces when the handicapped
person isn't in the vehicle, being dropped off, or picked up? Sure the
vehicle is licensed for that use, but isn't it a bit cheesey to take
advantage of it when it's not needed at that time?

--
jam

'73 R75/5 Toaster (not for sale)
'99 R1100RT (in use)
'00 FLHRCI (sold!)
Iron Butt Assoc, WATR 3X, EIEIO, AEIOU etc blah blah

 

I think Brian's valid point is missed here. How do you tell just by
looking who "has a problem" and who doesn't?

I once parked at a local establishment. Some kid pulls into the only
handicapped parking spot (no permit showing) and runs into the store.
Inside the store, I yielded to a moment of real tackiness and told
him, "Ya' know, I hope you never need a handicapped space. But if you
do, I hope you can't a vacant one."

Not all the handicapped start off that way.

Oma


Walk with many, follow The One.
(to email, change nospam to w000023)

 

Which model Magna would that be?

Ever see this: http://home.swbell.net/ronhelms/ ?

Oma

Walk with many, follow The One.
(to email, change nospam to w000023)

 

How is it we keep falling for these deals?

Oma

Walk with many, follow The One.
(to email, change nospam to w000023)

 

Steve is on here somewhere and he can correct me if I am wrong, but
it's illegal to park in a handicap spot with a permit if that person
is not the person to whom the permit was issued.

There was a big bust in Ft. Worth not too far back where people were
getting nailed for using handicapped tags to park close to the
courthouse. Of course, these people weren't the people to whom the
tags were issued and they got nailed for it.


--Fullstate

 

Let's keep in mind that just because we can't see the disability does
not mean that it does not exist. I know people that look like they
can walk just fine, but the reality is that they have other medical
conditions that prevent them from parking too far away.


--Fullstate

 

How is it we keep falling for these deals?

Oma[/QUOTE]

"the new stadium is going to generate revenue and pay for other things,
bring urban revitalization, fix neighborhood blight and cure cancer, all
without raising taxes"

Harris county is still paying off the changes to the astrodome that bud
adams demanded before he split town for memphis then to nashville
anyway. then enron was behind the push for the new baseball park here
because they owned land in the area. such good corporate citizens,
thinking only of our best interests.

I don't know about any of y'all, but i've never seen an area around a
sports stadium that was saved or rehabilitated because there was a
stadium built. usually it's the opposite. yet they still use the same
old lines to fool the public tho'... "why we *neeeed* this stadium,
look at how awful the old one is, why it's got to be twenty five years
old, it's out of date....."

as always, follow the money and learn from history.

--
jam

'73 R75/5 Toaster (not for sale)
'99 R1100RT (in use)
'00 FLHRCI (sold!)
Iron Butt Assoc, WATR 3X, EIEIO, AEIOU etc blah blah

 

This is very true fullstate I have seen many people get cited for it.
I have also seen some stuck with a felony because of thier misuse of the
endorsment. although it may just be a state jail felony I would have to look
on nexis lexus or in the penal code to find out for sure and I just dont feel
like getting up right now.

IceMan

 

Steve,
I have seen some charge with either misuse of a govenment record or fraud it
is a higher charge that I want to say was a felony. I believe there were
getting those charges when the person the placard was issued to was not around
but the driver chose to stop in the handicap space. I have been up sice 3:00
this morning after going to bed around midnight so I am having a Hell of a
time even thinking straight much less trying to figure out the penal code and
ccp

IceMan

 

if this is the same lift, change the bolts our for higher strength sets.
this was discussed a few months back over in rmh and those things really
are dangerous, a bolt will let go with no warning. it's the shear
strength that's in question.

"only 600 lbs" is a mess if it falls on top of you while you're working.
bolts are cheap insurance.

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jam

'73 R75/5 Toaster (not for sale)
'99 R1100RT (in use)
'00 FLHRCI (sold!)
Iron Butt Assoc, WATR 3X, EIEIO, AEIOU etc blah blah

 

that's good. do you now if they are charging bikes for entry? they
used not to, that would be cool if that was still the case.

--
jam

'73 R75/5 Toaster (not for sale)
'99 R1100RT (in use)
'00 FLHRCI (sold!)
Iron Butt Assoc, WATR 3X, EIEIO, AEIOU etc blah blah

 

Actually, the permit IS for the person and not a vehicle.

And for anyone's business, the placard I have is for ME. I could get
one for my motorcycle too, but with the flack I get for driving my van
and parking in spaces, I don't really feel like kicking the shit out
of some redneck fat bastard for his ignorance and saying/doing
something to my motorcycle.

 

What's funny about this discussion is that I've found many of the same
people who complain about people parking in handicapped spaces
wouldn't even qualify for it. On top of that, they are the one's who
use handicap spaces for shopping cart parking and/or park broadside in
front of two spaces.

I've had people threaten me, knock on my window when I park and tell
me I need to move (even though my placard/plates is in plain view),
and even had one guy pull a gun on me. Even still today, I go to a
shopping center and I see the handicap spaces full of shopping carts
where the person who's disabled has to get out and move the carts to
park...not to mention the person who left the carts there walked
across two aisles of parking to get to the spaces and would've been
closer to just go to the cart recepticle.

Think about it.

 

And for all the "I want to make sure you qualify" folks out
there...it's also illegal to prevent or restrict a qualified person
from parking in the space.

I would have to say from my own experience that if someone parking in
the spot doesn't affect you, then don't worry about it and go on with
your life. I've known several people to get into more trouble than it
was worth for them by being a "busy body" and challenging people
parking in those spaces.

 

I didn't know that was illegal, but it does not surprise me. It
doesn't really surprise me that people would "challenge" other people
like that, either. We never seem to mind our own business.

I've seen people without permits, stickers, plates, whatever park in
handicapped spots on many occasions. It really ticks me off.....but
whose to say there aren't other circumstances that I am not aware of?
I try to keep that in mind.

But when the jerk-off in the new beemer parks in a handicapped space,
leaves the car running and RUNS inside to get a cup of coffee.......



--Fullstate

 

"the new stadium is going to generate revenue and pay for other things,
bring urban revitalization, fix neighborhood blight and cure cancer, all
without raising taxes"

Harris county is still paying off the changes to the astrodome that bud
adams demanded before he split town for memphis then to nashville
anyway. then enron was behind the push for the new baseball park here
because they owned land in the area. such good corporate citizens,
thinking only of our best interests.

I don't know about any of y'all, but i've never seen an area around a
sports stadium that was saved or rehabilitated because there was a
stadium built. usually it's the opposite. yet they still use the same
old lines to fool the public tho'... "why we *neeeed* this stadium,
look at how awful the old one is, why it's got to be twenty five years
old, it's out of date....."

as always, follow the money and learn from history.[/QUOTE]

"Now, With Bill Moyers" just aired a piece on Walmart. They told how
Cathedral City, California made a deal with WM that had the city
refunding taxes to them for 10 years. The city would get the checks
fom the State and then just sign 'em over to WM.

Guess what happened in the tenth year. The city council reads in the
paper that WM is closing that store and opening 3 more down the road.

The piece had other "revelations" about WM practices. One former
manager said part of the problem is that people coming out of WM just
look at the bottom line on their receipt. They never see the other
costs they are paying and therefore just keep going back.

Oma

Walk with many, follow The One.
(to email, change nospam to w000023)

 

....take the opportunity to move his car for him, then leave. <VBG>

--
jam

'73 R75/5 Toaster (not for sale)
'99 R1100RT (in use)
'00 FLHRCI (sold!)
Iron Butt Assoc, WATR 3X, EIEIO, AEIOU etc blah blah

 

"the new stadium is going to generate revenue and pay for other things,
bring urban revitalization, fix neighborhood blight and cure cancer, all
without raising taxes"

Harris county is still paying off the changes to the astrodome that bud
adams demanded before he split town for memphis then to nashville
anyway. then enron was behind the push for the new baseball park here
because they owned land in the area. such good corporate citizens,
thinking only of our best interests.

I don't know about any of y'all, but i've never seen an area around a
sports stadium that was saved or rehabilitated because there was a
stadium built. usually it's the opposite. yet they still use the same
old lines to fool the public tho'... "why we *neeeed* this stadium,
look at how awful the old one is, why it's got to be twenty five years
old, it's out of date....."

as always, follow the money and learn from history.[/QUOTE]

Sounds quite a bit like the deal going on with Texas Stadium and
Irving right now. Jerry Jones is trying to get this new "high tech"
stadium built or he'll leave town. He's talking about all the horrible
things with this stadium now, my question is that if he can't fill the
stadium now, what's a water fountain in front and a retractable roof
going to do? Maybe it just me, but if there's something people want to
see bad enough, they'll pack themselves into an out-house to see it.
I'm not saying Texas Stadium is an out-house, but it surely isn't
packed either.

Another thing, they keep talking about all this "new revenue"
generated in the city...but I haven't received a single call from some
guy saying "I'm in town from Phoenix to watch the Cowboys play this
weekend and need a network installed". No roofs being repaired,
plumbing repairs, lawns mowed, tires sold, accounting done, haircuts,
cars washed...or anyting. Where's this "revenue"? Hotels? They have
their own services in-house. Upkeep on the stadium property? That
falls to the city...which is taken from tax dollars gained from
property taxes and sales taxes. Rental cars? There's not that many
people to see games during a normal season and still, the rental car
companies also do everything in-house.

Is there something I'm missing?

 

i dunno, but it seems to me that so far the only ppl who've come close
to getting it correct is Los Angeles.

"no we are not building a new stadium, we have the Coliseum and the Rose
Bowl. besides, we have more than enough interesting things to do without
paying for a football team to reside here"

follow the money......

--
jam

'73 R75/5 Toaster (not for sale)
'99 R1100RT (in use)
'00 FLHRCI (sold!)
Iron Butt Assoc, WATR 3X, EIEIO, AEIOU etc blah blah