Ground anchors. Make or Buy?

Ok, so I are thinking of pre-empting the thieving cunts and putting in a
ground anchor of some description.

Now I have got a fair bit of space to pay with and can have something of
real FOAD dimensions to act as a deterrent and thought that something of
the ride-in variety along the lines of the ones you use to park push
bikes in might do the job nicely.

Are such things available retail or do I have to offer beer tokens to
someone with a scaffold pole and a welding set to make one?

 

Zan (CBR1000F) - www.zanziba.prodigynet.co.uk/Pictures wrote

Yes, and? There is **** all I can do to stop them desiring my bike and
thinking they can make an easy profit from it or charging me for the
privilege of not pressuring the police to stop others doing the same.
Thusly I suspect that in future I shall have to do something to slow the
cunts down if not actually stop them. Ground Anchors are acceptable
technology in this respect.

No garage and I don't like disk locks. I don't like locks at all, they
are a battle lost.

The rust and the head lock.

 

Not quite the same I know, but I have something similar to this:

http://www.mandp.co.uk/productInfo.aspx?catRef=500835

Being a "Sold Secure" item could also have a good effect on your insurance.

I use a "Magnum" chain too, plus the shed [1] is alarmed.

[1] The wooden outbuilding where the Zephyr lives, not the Zephyr itself.

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My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)

 

Dan L wrote

Not exactly what I had in mind but not as expensive as I thought it
might be either. Ta.

 

You can buy similar things with big side-plates to stop the scumbags
removing the wheel spindle. Dunno where from though.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, steve auvache amazed us all with this pearl of
wisdom:

I read in one of the bike mags a few years ago that an engine block
makes a good anchor, threading a chain through one of the cylinders.

Failing that, I'm sure I've seen a big FOAD yellow thing that you
reverse the bike into and it encloses the back wheel and locks the bike
solid to the ground. It's the one that's on a funny tilt because of the
angle of the bike when it's on the side stand but I really can't
remember who makes it <picks up last month's copy of Bike>... Nope can't
see it in there either.

 

Krusty wrote

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Whinging Courier wrote

Yeah right. Nice hot bike, nice cold fingers, I can see that being a
winner. Though it doesn't have to be a wheel that gets anchored, a bit
of lateral thinking and there must be lots of places around the frame
that could be used. Be bike specific though probably.

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Ok, so I are thinking of pre-empting the thieving cunts and putting in a

If you get a lump of channel and some concrete I'll come over and burn a
hole through it so you can thread a FOAD chain though the thing if you mount
it in the ground properly.
I got all the gear on the van all we need to do is organise a day when I am
over Flatlands to I can do the job.
Beer tokens etc etc


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R obbo wrote

Not yet as it happens but the front garden is scheduled for
redevelopment this winter so I can supply the hole and have it filled
with fresh concrete. Channel??

Chain through the ground sounds really rather cool. I like that. What
opinions does the panel have about the sort of dimensions which might
appeal to Auntie Carole? A couple or three big hoops like they have on
the docks has a sort of aesthetic appeal. Anybody know of any dockyard
breakers?

 

This seems reasonably secure:

http://www.yanchor.com/about.html1.html

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, steve auvache amazed us all with this pearl of
wisdom:

'Sperfume, innit.

 

Macie wrote

Neat tool. Nice idea, simple and elegant.

 

Whinging Courier wrote

Actually I have an idea forming and have got this far:

http://www.kellysearch.com/gb-product-4616.html

but it needs refining.

Does anybody what is the name of those figure 8 type chain link mooring
ring things that ropes get put round?

 

Three points.

1/ security is relative, there is no such thing as thief proof, the
tougher you make something the tougher the tools the thief will use,
right up to a BOC oxy-acetylene portapak or even a JCB, but in reality
all you need to do is make sure that YOUR shit is a LOT harder to get
(at) than the neighbours', OK, this can be a bit of an arms race but it
really isn't that difficult to be the least thief friendly house on a
street, Plod are really helpful if you take the time to consult them.

2/ security has to be useable, in reality that means you won't be using
19 different devices to secure your bike, all of which have to be
disabled in a certain order and given time limit, you'll be using one,
and it will be a key operated lock. The absolute WORST place you can
either buy or get advice on these things is a bike shop, the ONLY place
is a genuine locksmith, what you need is square section chain (square
section is bolt cutter proof because of the area presented to the
blades) as heavy duty as possible, £30 will get you enough, make sure
you loop it THROUGH THE FRAME ideally under the carbs too and over the
gearbox, secure it with a PROPER STRAIGHT SHACKLE security padlock with
less than 1mm gap when closed on the chain, and a roller pin so you
can't cut it either, again, about £30, anyone in the M5J30 area I can
introduce you to a bloke who sells this stuff, you want a laugh take in
your £80 to £120 bought in a bike shop security chain and lock and
watch him defeat it in ten seconds and almost complete silence...

3/ ground anchor, bikes are great for thieves, they come complete with
two low friction wheels and handlebars to steer them while you push
them around the corner onto the waiting trailer and tarp or tail lift
panel van, a six foot wrecking bar will defeat 99% of ground anchors in
seconds and almost silently, the HD chain just gives the wrecking bar
something to purchase on... in this respect there is NO substitute for
weight, go to your local scrap yard and buy an old flywheel from a big
diesel, something weighing around 1/2 a ton if possible, embed THAT in
your driveway (with its own ground anchors if you like) and all of a
sudden your prospective bike thief is going to need hydraulic shears
and a power pack, a gas axe, or a HIAB, there are sure to be lots of
other bikes around about that are FAR easier to steal.

HTH etc

 

"Mooring Bits"

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Dan L (Oldbloke)
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)

 

"Bitts" with two "t"s

or bollards

http://www.anselljones.com/

 

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Dan L (Oldbloke)
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R (Going)
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament)
BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)

 

Guy Fawkes wrote

Point taken but.

Frankly I was surprised more than anything else that they took the
bandit. Now I have to take counter measures and I want them to fucking
work.

On the positive side I don't own the type of bike that the local scrotes
would want to nick for a ride round the park so that is one subset of
Thieving Low Life out of the equation.

As too the rest, rust is obviously no deterrent so there is one excuse
for maintaining a grubby bike I have lost.

The big issue I have with it all is who am I defending against? It was
easy for them but it was easy for who? Was it the sort who travel with
oxy and foad bolt cutters expressly for the purpose or was it the local
pikeys and a few beers?

The pikeys I can defend against. A red flashing led, a ground anchor
and extra illumination should stop them.

Hey ho, me tree needs a haircut anyway and as a part of the counter
measures package it is very cheap.

 

Dan L wrote

No, that is a Bollard. I am thinking of what is essentially a bit of
chain, the sort of thing you see Brunel next too. Oval, with a bar
across the middle.