Governors parking SUVS as gas prices soar

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  1. Caerus

    Caerus Guest

    Excert from AP Wire, Monday October 10, 2005

    KEN THOMAS

    Associated Press

    WASHINGTON - When gas prices soared after Hurricane Katrina,
    New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson looked at the Lincoln Navigator
    that ferries him around his home state and thought about the
    message he was sending.

    The large sport utility vehicle doesn't get the best gas
    mileage - about 15 miles per gallon. So the former U.S. energy
    secretary decided to switch to a Ford Escape hybrid, which
    combines gasoline and electric power for twice that mileage.

    "You need to practice what you preach," Richardson said.

    Rugged SUVs have been a popular choice for governors on
    the move, providing plenty of security, extra legroom and
    space for staff members. But with gas prices hovering
    near $3 a gallon, some governors are trading in their
    gas-guzzlers and asking state employees to cut back on
    unnecessary travel.

    Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has been using a white Ford Escape
    hybrid after Katrina, keeping his Ford Expedition parked
    when he travels around Tallahassee. The hybrid goes
    hand-in-hand with Bush's recent push for alternative fuels.

    "It's kind of hard to be arguing to conserve gasoline
    when you're driving around in a Ford Expedition that
    guzzles it down at a 6- to 8-mile per gallon clip,"
    Bush said last month.

    Two Midwest governors, Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota and
    Tom Vilsack of Iowa, are shifting to SUVs that run on E85,
    a gas-ethanol blend. Idaho Gov. Dirk Kempthorne started
    using an E85 Chevrolet Suburban after helping open a
    pump for the alternative fuel in Boise.

    Pawlenty, who is awaiting a black Chevy Suburban,
    considered getting a hybrid. He chose an ethanol-powered
    SUV because he couldn't find a hybrid large enough to
    accommodate himself, three family members, security,
    equipment and staff members.


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    Caerus, Oct 11, 2005
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    muddy Guest

    Good show though.

    And our third rate govenator is still driving his 7 Hummers.
     
    muddy, Oct 12, 2005
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  3. Unfortunately, this is more PR than true concern about saving gas. I
    read an article somewhere about famous Hollywood personalities who
    show up in Priuses at red carpet ceremonies before awards shows.
    Turns out they usually fly to LA in their private jet, then hop into a
    Prius to make their appearance.
     
    blazing laser, Oct 12, 2005
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    James Clark Guest


    I thought - in Frisco - they were calle BISTRO standards?
     
    James Clark, Oct 12, 2005
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    Bob Myers Guest

    Where'd he find a FORD Prius to smash into, though?

    Bob M.
     
    Bob Myers, Oct 12, 2005
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    Alan Moore Guest

    "May I boil in oil and fry in Crisco
    if I ever call San Francisco 'Frisco'!"

    And in SF, we have Cafes, not Bistros. We've got Italians, not French.

    Al Moore
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    Alan Moore, Oct 13, 2005
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    Alan Moore Guest

    And since you can't count on renting or borrowing one when you want,
    to, they probably have it trucked down ahead of time, just to make
    sure it arrives in good shape.

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
     
    Alan Moore, Oct 13, 2005
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    JB Guest

    The best thing about calling "San Francisco" "Frisco" is that the only
    people
    who'd really complain are anti-violent!

    It is like walking into a quadripilegic ward and saying "I'll fight
    anyone in the house
    with one arm tied behind my back"

    ;)
     
    JB, Oct 13, 2005
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    muddy Guest

    Jawohl mein herr.
     
    muddy, Oct 13, 2005
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    PC Paul Guest

    Oo! Ooo! Why I Oughta!

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    PC Paul, Oct 13, 2005
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    Alan Moore Guest

    Yeah, I was thinking neighborhoods, really. North Beach still shows
    signs of it's formerly Italian character, but I don't know of any
    characteristically French neighborhoods.

    Al Moore
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    Alan Moore, Oct 14, 2005
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    Alan Moore Guest

    You'd be surprised. After the famous "Auto Row" sit-ins, a civil
    rights action (which became violent) the House Committee on
    Un-American Activities decided to hold hearings out here. The result
    was more riots, and HUAC never again travelled West of the
    Mississippi, and was dissolved a few years later.

    When there's good reason, people will do most anything.

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
     
    Alan Moore, Oct 14, 2005
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    JB Guest

    Unfortunately, the Frisco line's web site doesn't explain the term.

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=frisco&match=all&titlesonly=0


    http://www.sfgate.com/traveler/guide/

    "It used to be that if you referred to the City (the preferred term for San
    Francisco) as Frisco, it signalled you as an ignorant rube.
    [/QUOTE]
    When my Mom lived in "Frisco" (during WWII) it was the prefered term for
    it. Then the folks
    got pretentious and wanted to be called "The City" as if, New York,
    Chicago, London and Paris
    didn't even exist ;)
     
    JB, Oct 14, 2005
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    JB Guest

    It was a joke... it was based on the notion that most San Francisco
    snobs are
    such wimps that you can say anything you like to 'em. The SFites who
    could kick your
    ass aren't as snobby.

    OTOH: I could be wrong --- it was a joke, not a sociological study ;)
     
    JB, Oct 14, 2005
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    PC Paul Guest

    And they were right! :)

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    PC Paul, Oct 14, 2005
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    JB Guest


    The Examiner, a free almost-daily newspaper, always refers to San Francisco as
    "The City."

    Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers, always talk about Boston, Our Fair City,
    MA.
    [/QUOTE]
    Everyone can call their local big city "Our City" - that's reasonable...
    but people in the tri-state area don't
    mean San Francisco when they say "The City". In fact, some Easterners
    think the Bay Area has a lot of
    chutzpah (or drug-addled brain cells) referring to a burg with less than
    a million inhabitants as *The* City.
     
    JB, Oct 14, 2005
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    PC Paul Guest

    That's what everyone has been brainwashed into believing. KGB records
    wnearthed after the fall of the USSR documented the very deep extent to
    which agents of the KGB and other Kremlin controlled assets had
    penetrated the US Government and society at large. Below are refernces
    for our own "Verona Project" covering just a few years activities.

    http://www.cia.gov/csi/books/venona/venona.htm

    http://www.nsa.gov/venona/index.cfm

    http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hiss/hissvenona.html

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/venona/intercepts.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VENONA_project

    http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/venona.htm

    JOe McCarthy may have been a bit of a nut case, but he wasn't all wrong
    either. The US was undeniably under attack by the USSR's various intel
    agencies.
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    Alan Moore Guest

    <snip the links>

    And how many of those did HUAC manage to uncover? As compared to the
    damage they did to decent, honorable people, they were a burden to the
    US, not an asset.

    I know, I was a victim.

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
     
    Alan Moore, Oct 15, 2005
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    Rich Guest

    Tell that to the Boudins. ;-}

    Rich, Urban Biker
     
    Rich, Oct 20, 2005
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    Rich Guest


    The French influence is somewhat older and more diffused by now than the
    Italian, but there is a church on Nob Hill named "Notre Dame des
    Victoires", a soubriquet conferred on the Empress Josephine. And if I
    want Italian bread, I can more easily find it in New York than in SF.

    Rich, Urban Biker
     
    Rich, Oct 20, 2005
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