From BFM in Shipley, Frank Thomas, not a brand I would consider normally. The reason I bought them is they where in a sale & I only paid £350 for a full zip together set made from Kangaroo leather. They also fit me, at 6' 3" which was the definitive reason for purchase Very nice too & the right price. Got a pair of Alpine Stars GSX boots too, for £150, saved a fair bit really, all me summer leathers etc sorted. They have loads of gear going cheap, as they are doing major alterations to the shop & need to shift some gear. -- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Frank Thomas *and* kangaroo leather - could there *be* a worse combination? -- Krusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
Please explain? They seem very decent & pretty well made. Remember how much i paid, i could see your point if it was £495 as they would have been. -- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
Krusty says... It's interesting to read Paul Varnsverry's views on kangaroo leather. Apparently the only kangaroo hides worth using for bike kit are from animals culled later in the day. They degrade so badly as the dead animals sit in pick-ups in the heat that hides from animals culled in the morning become next to useless for protective clothing. I can't see the likes of FT paying for anything like decent quality hides, but they can legally state they use kangaroo and will take advantage of all the good publicity that good kangaroo hides have had. It's a shame more punters aren't as clued up as we've become here with Paul's help and advice, it'd put paid to dodgy practise and raise the standards of bike kit no end if people just walked away from the crap they've had offered to them for so long.
I did a web search on them & didn't get any horror stories. I'm not really one for wet riding in leathers anyway. -- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
I see, who's Paul? Seems like I need some advice after the horse has bolted. -- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
**** it, at least the boots are good! When i take a spill, at least my feet & ankles will be Ok, the rest of me might look like a pig carcass, but i'll be buried with nice feet. -- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
Nige wrote Some bloke who knows some stuff about falling off bikes. Between him and Veggie they have the whole thing about as covered as it gets. learn how to use google.
Nige says... AlpineStars SMX you say? Made from a material called Lorica which A/stars claim is as good as leather. Why don't they make race suits from it then? <strokes chin> Hmmm.
Wuss indeed! I have wet weather gear for that steve. -- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
I'm as good as dead then! -- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
-- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
I don't think I need to explain - everyone else seems to have it pretty much covered. Just to give you a taste of what's to come though, I bought some FT leathers years ago before I saw the light. The jacket zip had to be replaced twice within the first few weeks, & the stitching fell apart at an alarming rate. I'm extremely grateful I never crashed in it. I suggest you consider thinking up a good excuse to return yours for a refund. -- Krusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
I've got some jolly sturdy cardboard I'll have you know. Now 'wet' & 'Kleenex' otoh - not that I'd know anything about wet Kleenex, obviously... -- Krusty www.MuddyStuff.co.uk Off-Road Classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
Sounds like i wont have to! I have had a very good look at them, they seem decent quality, but I have no experience of FT stuff. Cheers for your assistance in the matter/debacle. -- 'I miss the comfort in being sad' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar 2000 Suzuki GSX1300R Y Hayabusa KTM 520 SX
I'm definitely with you on the Frank Thomas thing Krusty, but what's the objection to Kangaroo leather? I concurr. -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19