Got a new engine? Want the most power? Read on.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mike Barnard, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. Mike Barnard

    Mike Barnard Guest

    My engine is 25k old and way beyond this, but it might be interesting
    reading for those like Champ with a newly built motor and looking for
    max HP.

    http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

    I don't think it's a ginge, but WTF.

    [If you break anything it's not my fault, etc.]


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    Mike Barnard, Mar 22, 2005
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  2. Mike Barnard

    Eiron Guest

    <Ironic mode>
    That man sure knows a lot about science.
    </Ironic mode>

    Are all rings the same as dykes rings?
     
    Eiron, Mar 22, 2005
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  3. Mike Barnard

    Ace Guest

    It is, and it's also bollocks, IIRC from previous discussions from
    People Who Know.

    Champ has his own running-in methodology, which ISTR makes much more
    sense than this one.
     
    Ace, Mar 22, 2005
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  4. Mike Barnard

    dwb Guest

    I've always found it interesting that on all three bikes I've had new, the
    'running in' instructions all co-incided with almost exactly the point at
    which the engine started to make the power/became interesting.

    4.5k on the DL
    7.5k on the GSX-R
    Can't remember on the SV, but it was the same idea.

    I have this suspicion it's about getting used to a new bike, rather than
    "saving the engine".
     
    dwb, Mar 22, 2005
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  5. Mike Barnard

    dwb Guest

    In a literal sense, of course.

    It still doesn't make it any less of a suspicion though - this is, after
    all, the same manual that recommends changing out of second gear at 12mph,
    and riding very very slowly if it's wet or windy.
     
    dwb, Mar 22, 2005
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  6. Mike Barnard

    Mash Guest

    Are you saying the running in period was 7500 miles or am I mis-reading
    something? All three of my new machines stated ~500 miles.... although
    this usually ended up being about 50 ;-)

    So, what is champ's super special running in method then?
     
    Mash, Mar 22, 2005
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  7. Mike Barnard

    Jeremy Guest

    RPM


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    Jeremy, Mar 22, 2005
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  8. Durrrrr. RPM, not distance!
     
    Véritable Rosbif, Mar 22, 2005
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  9. Mike Barnard

    Mash Guest

    Mine made more of a brummmmmm noise.
     
    Mash, Mar 22, 2005
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  10. Mike Barnard

    Kevin Seal Guest

    Are you saying the running in period was 7500 miles or am I mis-reading
    something? All three of my new machines stated ~500 miles.... although
    this usually ended up being about 50 ;-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    [/QUOTE]
    Are you saying that you thrashed the arse off the Fazer I bought from
    you?

    You complete bastard!!

    :)
     
    Kevin Seal, Mar 22, 2005
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  11. Chris H () wrote:
    : You just have to take the asperities off the honing marks on the bores
    : to ensure good oil control. That is easily taken care of by the first
    : 500 miles with mineral oil in the bike. As a precaution, I would
    : recommend a semi-synthetic for the following 1000 miles if you intend to
    : run it on fully synthetic in the longer term.
    : Other than that I wouldn't use full throttle and rev's or high load for
    : the first couple of hundred miles. There is indeed a risk of being *too*
    : gentle with the engine. All of the bikes I've had from new have used
    : **** all oil after being thrashed from about 300 miles onwards.
    : Subsequently, I have *never* had to top up oil between services and they
    : have all performed fine[2] until I sold them at ~20K-30K miles.

    I ran the CBR in according to the handbook (5k rpm up to 600 miles, 7k
    up to 1000 miles). It turned 80,000 miles at the weekend [1] and doesn't
    use any oil.

    [1] Dundee, Braemar, Aviemore, Fort William, Oban, Lochgilphead, Inverary,
    Tyndrum, Perth, home - 400 miles. Nice.

    Blair.
    '97 CBR600
     
    B.G. Finlay IT Services, Mar 22, 2005
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  12. Mike Barnard wrote
    Either way it is still utter fucking bollox.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 22, 2005
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  13. Chris H () wrote:
    : B.G. Finlay IT Services expressed the following:
    : > I ran the CBR in according to the handbook (5k rpm up to 600 miles, 7k
    : > up to 1000 miles). It turned 80,000 miles at the weekend [1] and
    : > doesn't use any oil.

    : Very good, but who of the two of us had the most *fun* in the first 1000
    : miles?[1].
    : I rest my case.

    But I had the other 79k miles (and counting) to look forward to ;-)

    Blair.
    '97 CBR600
     
    B.G. Finlay IT Services, Mar 22, 2005
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  14. Mike Barnard

    dwb Guest

    YTC.
     
    dwb, Mar 22, 2005
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  15. Mike Barnard

    Eiron Guest

    Not entirely bollox, but nothing new on that site either.
    It was done much better in 1981 by A. Graham Bell.
     
    Eiron, Mar 22, 2005
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  16. Chris H wrote
    I've had three new bikes over the years and in each case I was very
    cautious as I rode them off the forecourt. An hour or so of chugging
    the long way round home and an oil change and then 500 miles/first
    service of "**** me it is surprising how quick you can go and still stay
    inside the guidelines, mostly."

    I rather felt that over two or three rides chosen to stress the bike the
    way I wanted it stressed going in 50 or 100 mile increments of beanage
    up to the first service point was about right. By then I had become as
    familiar as I was ever going to be with the bikes and was riding them
    accordingly.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 22, 2005
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  17. Chris H () wrote:
    : In that case, do you wanna buy an '02 model with a mere 24K on the
    : clock?

    No, but if you've got an R1200GS going cheap let me know!
    BGF.
     
    B.G. Finlay IT Services, Mar 22, 2005
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  18. Mike Barnard

    Muck Guest

    How do they run in aircraft engines? Just out of interest....
     
    Muck, Mar 22, 2005
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  19. Mike Barnard

    Muck Guest

    Sounds like a marketable product. Precision running in, to release the
    power... and so on....
     
    Muck, Mar 22, 2005
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  20. Mike Barnard

    Mash Guest

    Meh, it works doesn't it? ;) I didnt thrash it till it got to about 500
    or so, but then I didn't treat it like a ming vase either (I cant spell
    faberge egg)

    Half the people say you're blow it up if you rev it, and the other half
    say you'll polish/glaze/whatever the cylinders if you pootle around at
    30 mph everywhere. So, I just rode the damn thing.
     
    Mash, Mar 22, 2005
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