Google IPO

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mike, Jan 14, 2004.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    "Web search powerhouse Google has contacted investment banks
    about an initial public offering (IPO) that could value the
    company in the range of $15 billion and $25 billion, according to
    separate reports in the Financial Times and Wall Street Journal."

    Does Google actually make any money and if so, how? And if not,
    how can it be worth billions? I read somewhere that Hotmail.com
    hadn't actually made any money when it was sold to Bill Gates for
    $400million.
     
    Mike, Jan 14, 2004
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  2. Mike

    Sean Doherty Guest

    I believe it does make money. Look on the right had of your screen
    when you do a search. -- those little boxes are where the money comes
    from.
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    Sean Doherty, Jan 14, 2004
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  3. Mike

    Mike Guest

    The "sponsored" links, surely that can't be enough?
     
    Mike, Jan 14, 2004
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    Rexx Guest

    Think of all the billions of topics that people search from, and how many
    millions of people view google in a day. With that coverage, with such a
    wide range, they can charge a fair bit for advertising and sponsored
    links, even if they don't charge much, there's such a wide market that
    they can be raking it in. They at least have to cater for all of the
    people using google to keep it publicly free - which in itself is quite a
    bit of money.
     
    Rexx, Jan 14, 2004
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    Zobo Kolonie Guest

    And feck if they're expensive too. IIRC it was summat like £1 per click
    through to place an ad there... fortunately you can put monthly limits on
    your spend but yay you could spend a lot (well it'd be a lot to me but
    presumably not to MegaBucks Inc).
    Sometimes if a company that annoys me appears there I click through anyway
    just to cost them a quid, then I go back to my regular search results :)
     
    Zobo Kolonie, Jan 14, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Sponsored links, selling data etc.

    Hotmail used to not have many adverts, now it does- they've also introduced
    the new extra space options
    and other chargeable plans - I would be surprised if Hotmail isn't making
    something or has plans to - no business runs anythng for 'fun'.

    The revenue from banner advertising is also likely to be surprisingly high
    considering the number of Hotmail users.
     
    dwb, Jan 14, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    err, have you ever *used* Google? It's dripping with paid-for
    highlighed search results.
     
    darsy, Jan 14, 2004
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    entwisi Guest

    :)
    I think you will find that you set both the amount per click through and a
    daily limit. The ads appear in order based on amount per click through so
    if you said £1 per click you would likley be top of the list. But you
    could put a £2 per day limit. A friend who does LPG conversions advertises
    through Google at 5p/click £2 per day. He reckons he gets 2 or 3 inquiries
    a day through it.
     
    entwisi, Jan 14, 2004
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  9. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Aye, I'm aware that they've "stepped up" their revenue
    enhancement scheme at Hotmail. My point is that it sold for
    fourhundredmillionfuckingdollars at a time when it had returned
    precisely feck all. Now Google /appear/ to be doing something
    similar in terms of the co's "value:real worth" ratio.
     
    Mike, Jan 14, 2004
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    Zobo Kolonie Guest

    OIC.
    Thanks. That's handy to know.
    I must have read it wrong when I looked at advertising with them, but that's
    me, Mr A Bit Thick :)
     
    Zobo Kolonie, Jan 14, 2004
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    Cab Guest

    On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:46:01 +0000, entwisi <>
    bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the lines
    of:

    So to really piss someone off, you click on their links loadsa times
    and buy bugger all. Nice.
     
    Cab, Jan 14, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Depends on whether you think information is worth money I suppose.
     
    dwb, Jan 14, 2004
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    Hog Guest

    and the search returns seem to favour certain sites too. Shit like kelkoo
    crops up at the top of the tree regularly so there is probably a revenue
    model at work there too.
     
    Hog, Jan 14, 2004
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  14. Mike

    Mike Guest

    I used to think that, but it's not true. Try "rude greeting
    cards" or "obscene cards". www.obscenecards.co.uk comes third on
    a web search and first on a UK search. That's my site and I pay
    Google feck all, in fact I've never contacted them or even
    submitted the site. Also, try "duab" :)
     
    Mike, Jan 14, 2004
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  15. It's not as dreadful as the Yahoo search used to be (probably still is),
    where almost every link returned was some sort of commercial site.

    Google lately doesn't seem as good as it has been for the past couple of
    years - I'm consistently finding the results returned are less relevant
    than they were.

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    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 14, 2004
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    Hog Guest

    Well remember Darcy linked to www.kartoo.com which I rather like.
     
    Hog, Jan 14, 2004
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  17. I'll give that a go, ta.

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    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 14, 2004
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  18. <don't reply to your own post,etc>

    WooHoo! Once I'd downloaded the toolbar wotsit, the resulting pages are
    so much better.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 15, 2004
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  19. Mike

    sweller Guest


    The same applies if you search on "MZ Motorcycles" [1], no sponsored
    links and the like but search on "Digital Camera" it, as darsy says,
    drips with ads.

    This is because, I imagine, people make money from selling digital
    cameras and are prepared to pay to get more customers. Google deals in
    information, the placing and delivery of some types of information has a
    value, and is charged for accordingly.

    Whereas the market for 'humorous' postcards is a missed opportunity for
    global capital.
     
    sweller, Jan 15, 2004
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  20. Mike

    sweller Guest

    Doesn't seem to work with Mozilla Firebird, or am I being clueless?
     
    sweller, Jan 15, 2004
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