[QUOTE="hippo"] Harold Scrubby tarred and feathered might be useufl as a speed bump. "The motorcyclist lost 200 points." Even if he lost two million, it's still the same initial result as losing twelve, although *possibly* he might not get the two points provisional licence option![/QUOTE] Are you sure? AFAIK, when you get a suspension due to accumulated points, at the end of the suspension they only extinguish the points which contributed to the accumulation which caused the suspension, not every point accrued up until the date of the suspension. I would not be surprised if by the letter of the law he had to serve 200/12 suspension periods, however I would expect that on appeal he could probably get that reduced considerably. Nev.. '08 DL1000K8