Cross posted from the VStrom2 list at Yahoo: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <struck for privacy> Date: Apr 9, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: [VStrom2] Bad, bad news...Rider down To: I just got a phone call from a friend who co-teaches riding with Larry Grodsky, author of the "Stayin' Safe" series in Rider magazine. My friend told me that Grodsky was killed last night in Texas, riding a bike back from California that he had bought. He evidently hit a deer. _____________________ More evidence that even the most knowledgeable and experienced riders can be taken out by those hooved vermin. I've seen them jump out of nowhere and land in front of riders on loud HDs (so much for the loud pipes saves lives argument) and some here have had all too close encounters with the disease carrying forest rats... and to think some places actually want to protect the vermin; the bag limit needs to be upped substantially as the deer population is out of control. save a life, go deer hunting this fall. be attentive when riding in known deer areas, which is most of texas.
Sorry to hear that AV. You're right about the over population of deer. Last week, one got hit right on the main street of town here. Hopefully a big vehicle took it out and not a biker. The deer are everywhere and not just in a few select areas. Joe and I have bagged our limit. I now have to watch for them everywhere, even in town.
that's insane and shows just how bad it is. deer can mess over a car and injure or kill the occupants too. they're overpopulated vermin and need to be treated as such. kill bambi.
---------------------------------------^^^^^^^ that is a new one, I have heard of wharf rats and sewer rats but not forest rats. Are they any kin to wererats?[/QUOTE] well, they are definitely known to come out on a full moon....
I was just talking to someone this evening, that lives in a real nice neighborhood in town and they said that someone just hit a deer a block from the elementary school. Oh, I forgot to mention hogs too. Lots of those around. I could use some deer/hog sausage.
on the Waltz a few years back a rider was taken out by one in the middle of the night south of Halletsville. it charged into the left side of his Glide, and broke the shifter off into the riders ankle. there was no sign of the hog afterwards, i think it won that round cleanly. big javelina will weigh as much as a full sized bike and have a matching attitude and some smarts. sooooooeeeeeee hawg ! i hate deer more tho'...... stupidest damn animal
Sorry about the loss. I've had a couple of scary encounters with deer, both in a car and with a motorcycle. I've never had to take any radical action to avoid one. Well except for the one that chased me down the road. Guess he (it was a he) didn't like my red 64 dodge at the time. He acted like he was seriously going to charge me a couple times and I decided put some distance between me and him. Bad enough dogs come barking out and chasing cars. I think the country as a whole needs to cut down on the deer population. Several states have extended their hunting season and even couraged hunters to go out and bag another if they've got one on the first couple of days. You know its a problem when a state gives anything away for free. Just a word of warning should you be traveling thru Utah or Nevada. Both those states have open ranges. So on cooler nights the cattle come up on the roads to stay warm. Makes for some pretty nasty accidents. I stopped at the next town after my third heart pounding encounter. I hated to shut down at 8pm at night but the thought of playing chicken with some unsuspecting cow just didn't sit well with me.
Yeeouch! I heard of one taking out the underside of a caddy, not long ago but so far no hogs vs. Hogs. There's a big ol' boar that thinks our pasture is his personal rooting area. I was walking near the back fence, when I saw something large and dark in the tall, hip high grass. This dark object began to move and make grunting noises. I beat a quiet, hasty backpedaling retreat without taking my eyes off it. That sucker was huge! I've heard they will kill and eat a human, if they can catch one unaware and I am not planning to find out if this is true. Now when I go out to the back of our place, I take a rifle. You won't get any arguments from me there. If you recall, one committed suicide, by running into my leg and then one threw herself in front of Joe and his bike cut her in half. I'm hoping to one day have that screw removed from my leg. It is a constant reminder of how stupid those critters really are.
cattle may be standing or walking there, but at least cattle will generally shy away and dont' jump out of nowhere into your path like deer will. motoring open range at night is definitely high risk. years ago crossing eastern oregon at night my pal and i were dodging deer and all sorts of creatures, the highlight of which was a frikkin' porcupine in the middle of the road; we straddled that thing on either side, missing it. that would not be something to roll over. i remember coming from the bat cave state park south of Fredericksburg and heading back into town after dusk with just enough light to see what seemed like a hundred deer in the pastures on either side of the road. cars and trucks were upset i wasn't going faster, but i was happy to let them clear way. that was the same night the buck ran in front of my pal on his FLHS on our way back into Hunt, close enough to where i couldn't tell if it went in front or behind him; he said he could hear the hooves clawing for traction on the pavement as it ran. it really is dangerous to ride after dark in parts of the state, much less on a full moon night when they are particularly active. big driving lights help, somewhat. properly applied .243 does even better.
ya'lls place is ripe for a hawg to be happy. on the one hand, it's pretty cool to have the wildlife around there. on the other, it's a big ham, and bacon on the hoof, with easter coming up... a little honey and pineapple baking and off ya go! and y'all are two of the too many who have been slapped by those vermin. hopefully the hardware is less bothersome in the warmer months and the bones fully mend finally to get it taken out. i know it would make you happy.
A smaller hog for roasting, maybe. The bone mended quite some time ago but the doc told me the screw could stay in indefinetly. I don't think he counted on it trying to work it's way out. I might go get it removed this winter, because I'll have to take it easy for a while after it's removed. There'll be a hole in the bone, all the way through. I have too much to do right now, so I'll just deal with it.
I've seen that. Yes, it's scary, especially after having seen Joe all bloody, right after he hit a deer. It was mostly Joe's blood. I sincerely hope that turtle is the only close call you ever have. As for deer whistles, don't waste your money. A friend of ours took out 2 deer, with the bumper of his truck. He had deer whistles mounted on each side of the front bumper. It tore his truck up but the whistles stayed put. If a loud muffler and headlights won't deter deer from jumping in front of, or into you, something you can't hear, isn't going to do diddly squat.
trains hit deer; emergency vehicles in full lights and siren response mode hit deer; why would someone think a tiny whistle is gonna change anything* ? kill bambi and all his stupid disease carrying relatives. *they do seem to work on rhinocerous and tigers, as reports of rhinocerous and tiger strikes seem to be statistically negligible in texas.
Yes, they do carry diseases. My little pooch came down sick within a week of receiving him. We nearly lost him due to him walking where the deer had crapped in our yard, then licking his paws. Luckily he survived and I'm now very careful of where he walks. I found out that deer carry all sorts of internal parasites, bacteria and such, in their guts. Same for bears but not lions.