Well, looks like I may as well keep the Triple. I've got used to the commute, and I still like the bike *loads*. So apart from the headlamp mod I have one other thing to do: Top box [1] Looking at the Givi site, they only apparent difference between the Monolock and Monokey systems are the 'weight'. So questions for anyone that has sued them 1) Is Monokey preferable to Monolock for any other reason? 2) Are these things waterproof? Are there any other brands I should consider? TIA [1] Yes, I know it will hardly help the aesthetics, but at least I can swap the pillion seat for the hump when I'm not using the luggage. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
Monokey is generally used for the full pannier / top-box sets. They use incompatible fixings. However, I discovered that, if you have a Monolock top-box (as I do - a Givi Simply), you can bolt the mounting plate for it to a Monokey system 'Wingrack' and can also change the lock on it so it matches that of the side cases. My top box has never leaked, however, the panniers have. I reckon it's more to do with the mounting position rather than the boxes being waterproof. Kappa boxes are interchangeable with Givi boxes and frames and can be significantly cheaper.
I've got Givi E21 panniers and have been out on the bike in serious absolutely-bucketing-down rain several times this year. Nothing got even remotely wet... HTH Tarby
Indeed, ta -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
So cheaper is fine, they should be pretty waterproof, and Kappa is even cheaper Ta -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
I have a Givi 'Simply' top-box and plate bolted to a Wingrack using Kappa side cases. All-in cost was quite significant, but I saved a fair bit by getting a s/h wingrack (had to buy a new mounting kit, though), Monokey top-box and Kappa side cases.
Likewise. I've ridden in torrential rain with Givi luggage mounted as top box and, many years ago on a VFR, E38 panniers. Never leaked. I currently use an E48 Monokey as a topbox on a Monorack fixture. I've no idea what the Monolock stuff is like.
Ta -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
My bit of advice (other than buy Givi, they do what you want them to) is to ask who has what spare before you open your wallet. The last time I delightedly mentioned that I'd got a Givi box from ebay, half a dozen ukrmers popped up with a cheery "oh, you should have said..."
Gyp says... I have a Givi Monorack top-plate going spare, if I can find that Oirish **** Petrolcan and nab it back, and if anyone else wants the ZZR1100D mounting arms that it's attached to they're welcome to them.
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo If you find him, get him to give me a shout would you? -- Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer as featured in Performance Bikes and Fast Bikes WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41 SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner", Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big" Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha Vmax Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
Good point. TBH I'm looking at £40 for a brand new one from ebay, so I'm not overly bothered. Topic changed just in case though -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
Probably a bit of a sod to fit on the Triple, and would make it rather wider, no? Otherwise I would. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2 Triumph Speed Triple: Black with extra black bits www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
any of the E** Monokey sidecases (aka panniers in English) can be used as a topbox with appropriate fixtures. Postage from Arniestate might be a bit of a fucker, mind.
