Getting one's knee down ?

Wasn't it who's who?

 

Actually the first one was for the camera as well. I could see the
photographer pointing his camera and I just held it at Sears on
Snetterton circuit. I was thinking to myself, hurry up I'm running out
of bend.

You are spot on about the second one but you make it sound like it's a
bad thing. Why?

 

If you're not in control you *will* crash.

 

You know that thread down there about airports where you said you
were thinking of going for a whoosh? Make it two.

 

Parental Avisory? Ho yuss. Something I'm extremely proud to be part of -
even in a crap, falling off kind of way.

 

Its not big and its not clever

 

It's fun and you can take the piss out of people that can't do it.

Like you.

 

Babba wrote:

<snip tale of dead friends, boo-hoo>

So, if I read this right, your 8 mates all could get a knee on the deck
but you couldn't do it for love nor money so you offed them all?

Oh no, not *shame*! How can I go on riding bikes at all now you've
cast shame on me. To think I've dragged the reputation of
motorcyclists everywhere along the ground.

Oh hang on, I don't think you'll be able to hear me up there on that
incredibly tall horse.

 

Quite right too. I'd love to be have made it onto the final cut.
Sadly, I can't even fall off well enough.

 

You don't have to ride a tall horse to see what tossers GMKDers look.
On the race track, great, but on public roads it's an invitation to join
the statistics. Do it if you're infantile egos really think you must,
but when you teach novices remember to tell them the snags too. What do
they do about the diesel, manhole covers, pot holes, debris, gravel etc
etc waiting to make them part company with their steeds? And what about
the nice, wire crash barriers and other pretty street furniture waiting
to break their back or decapitate them? And then there are the large,
cumbersome objects, driven by large, sluggish drivers, waiting to gobble
up small things sliding down the road and shit the bits out the back.
And the spectators of this fun event aren't protected by barriers and
piles of tyres, so you're just as likely to kill them as you are
yourself.

KDs push the bike, and the rider, to the limits. This is good practice
for the dangers of the public road where everyone is out to get us - you
also learn how to recover when the shit hits the fan. On the track
everything else is going the same way, and they're no bigger than you,
and prepared for this interesting manoeuvre, so will do their best not
to collide with you. And if you do come adrift there are acres of grass
to slide and bounce over, and hay bales and tyres to stop you going too
far. Then there are the medical wallahs on hand to put the bits in a
bag and ship them to a hospital in double quick order. And (for the
most part) tracks don't have all the manhole covers, drains, ruts,
gravel and other traps waiting to toss off the tossers on the public
road.

--
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Bike's are bosh, PC's are pointless, and the 1990's are nuts!
Bikes are great, PCs are super, and the 1990s are the time to be!
Save the apostrophe! Get 'em right! If in doubt, leave 'em out!!

 

What an incredibly stupid & insensitive thing to say.

So you're saying that you encourage inexperienced riders to challenge
the limits of themselve's & their machines on public roads for no
apparent reason other than to look cool?

Are you medically trained and capable of dealing with the aftermath?

Or would you barge through the crowd of onlookers for a closer view?

 

This is the world of usenet. Don't be so fucking soft.

And why not, eh?

Man with mobile and ability to press 9 three times. That's all you
need.

Of course. Got to get a good look at the blood, aintcha?

Now go and sort out your POS post-mangling newsreader, eh? And learn
to snip sigs while you're at it.

 

Eh?

8 people died trying to get their knee-down?

What bollocks. It's not hideous, at all. The worst that can be said
about it, is that's it's *possibly* pointless.

That's as maybe.


FWIW, Adrian Holt of this parish can get his knee-down while going
round in a tighter circle than I can do ride conventionally. Thus: he
has far better machine control than I do.

 

You're making huge leaps in your assumptions. Yes, I would engourage
people to push themselves so they learn. At the same time I'd expect
them to have the nouse not to push too hard, e.g. going into a corner
at double their normal speed. I'm not enough of a pompous arse to say
"oh, if you only want to look good then you're on your own".

As for the "aftermath", what's there going to be from a 20mph slide?
Some slightly scuffed pride? I'd better go and brush up my counselling
skills to keep you happy.

Again, with your third comment your ignorance shows through. Would you
try a new trick in front of a big audience, or would you practise with
a couple of mates watching out for you on a quiet street/car park/off
road area with no one else around?

Most people that I know who GTKD will only do it a) when there is good
visibility of the road(s) ahead, b) no traffic and c) it's safe to do
so in their judgement.

If one of your mates bought it by doing it round a blind corner then
running wide into an oncoming car don't assume everyone else will. One
thing's for sure, a first-timer wouldn't be encouraged to do high-speed
blind corner KD by anyone with an ounce of sense.

 

I hate coming across like a safety Nazi, but peer pressure alone must
account for a high % of the needless 'off's' currently plague'ing our
pastime.
How ALL OF US ride and the antics ALL OF US get up to are closely
followed by all those onlookers and inexperienced riders. People who
then jump on their nice n shiny plastic fantastics and think that riding
in that style & manner is easy, couple that with a lack of appreciation
of how little 'real world' protection those shiny helmets & leathers
actually afford you during the 'big off'.

Do your qualifications and experience of training people to GMKD extend
to the first aid of their mistakes?

Do you know your ABC, or at what point removing the helmet is advised,
do you know how to stem the blood loss of a compound fracture, or would
you just reach for the mobile then mingle with the crowd?

I can remember when tyre sliding was all the rage, when all the talk at
the bar was tall tales about how fat was the black line they'd just left
at some corner, there were even articles on technique in the glossies
c/w with lots n lots of piccy's for the illiterate, I remember the
gullibles that actually tried it between kerbstones, on greasy tarmac
with adverse camber and lots n lots of marbles. They dropped like flies
.. . . .

 

Have you ever heard the advice given to someone? Ever had Molly tell
you what to do, where you're going wrong?

Ever been there when I've been doing the above in front of such a large
crowd?

FWIW, where's this roundabout with the wire crash barrier? I've never
seen one. As for pot holes, debris and other you change line. KD
isn't a case of "I'm on this course until I pick my knee up, oh I do
hope nothing bad is ahead".

Find out what I actually do before you tar me with your brush. I
thought you had more sense than that.

This I'll take issue with as well. From the tyre wear there's plenty
left to lean further, and you can pick the bike up and turn off while
still hung off. Also, KD doesn't have to be done at speed. The real
skill is doing it at walking pace.

<doffs cap to monkey>

 

You are on the very edge of control with small margin for error, if the
unexpected happens you have very little left to deal with it.

<quote>
"Oh and some twat on a zx9r decided to pull out on me and then pass
Molly
on the inside, obviously his knee down needs were more important than
anyone elses. Or any kind of common sense safety."
</quote>

You will meet many twats, pratts, wankers & fukwits on todays roads,
when you have 3 of them on the same island you are BEGGING for a few
nights B&B courtesy of the local NHS.

 

He da man.

 

^^^^^^^^^^^

It's amazing how people use the word "unnaturally" to
describe something they don't like.

We evolved whilst running around killing mammoths, eating
berries and living in caves.

Riding motorbikes, toe-sucking, buying food from a
supermarket, flying to Tenerife for holidays in a
heavier than air craft; none of these are "natural".
But they are done anyway! Shock!

You don't like it. Let others have their fun.

This is another of those irregular verbs, isn't it?

I get my knee down to learn.
He get's his knee down to look cool.
They get their knee down because we told them to and are about to crash.

 

And on Usenet.

It's not an island, that's the bit in the middle. Come on - pedal a
bit faster and you might get with it.

HAng on - you're a Daily Mail journo looking for a story aren't you?
Your ill-thought out ramblings certainly sound like that one-sided
sensationalistic twaddle.

Here's your headline:
"Things I know nothing about might offend your idyllic world view if I
can factor in Small Children Might Get Slightly Upset!"