getting knocked out of your limits

Oh, boo hoo! Wait until a tractor trailer falls off an overpass and
squishes you. Or Tule Fog sets up in the central valley, leaving an 18
wheeler with the mistaken impression you're just another bug on her
windshield.

You should probably bring your bike indoors and put houseplants on it.
I can smell your fear from here.

--
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Looks like rush hour on I-5 to me. What's the big deal?

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You're Fair Game, you---you---you Suppressive Person!

I love it when potentially rational people go all paranoid. Why don't
you just turn your back and walk away from all that crap? Can't you
let it go?

What church *wouldn't* shun, banish, excommunicate, persecute,
imprison, torment, torture or murder members who suddenly left the
institution and began telling what they knew about it?

Why do you think the constitution has freedom from religion in the
bill of rights?

 

I'm betting that Turby will get straight answers to neither of his
questions.

 

That's freedom OF religion and it is in the constitution proper, not the
"Bill of Rights", try reading the document before "quoting" it.

--
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

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YOU read it. Freedom of Religion is in the Bill of Rights, NOT the
Constitution.

The first ten Amendments collectively are commonly known as the Bill
of Rights.

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified
12/15/1791.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,308405,00.html

The debate over the patriotic motto "In God We Trust" continues. Jews
and atheists in Bakersfield don't want the motto to appear in the
classrooms of the largest school district in America.

The Jews and atheists lost again.

"It's not political. It's not religious. It's patriotism."

"American patriotism is love of God and love of country. It's pride in
our country."

---Jacquie Sullivan, president of In God We Trust - America Inc., and
Bakersfield councilwoman.

 

I know, I know! So that second-rate sci-fi writers can turn made-up
psychologies into cultish religions and get safe harbour from
governments, of course.

 

You should tell these folks to revise their document:
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

 

NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition.

 

OK, sorry. I goofed on where in the Constitution it is, but the point
remains. It is NOT freedom FROM religion. You cannot suppress my
religion in the name of freedom.

--
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

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"Second-rate"? You sure give him a lot of credit...

--
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Well, I did say "sci-fi" and not "Science Fiction". }: )

(Star Trek is Science Fiction; Lost in Space is Sci-Fi.)

 

Excellent site. Yeah I blew that one %-) . I think that I must have been
thinking about the "separation of church and state" argument, which is
another fun argument to get into.

--
Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

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Why do you think it's not being enforced?

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Oops, my bad. Better now?
Wider lanes in Canada, eh? No wonder that road looks like a perfect
avenue for a nice long lane split!

So much room on either side! I lust after that highway. Must go to
Toronto just to ride the rush hour! What a delectable traffic jam!

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What if my religion involves keeping your religion from bothering me?

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Given that a lot of Europe's troubles until recent times have stemmed
directly from entanglement of government and religion, I don't have any
problem with a wall of separation between church and state. And since
the government cannot enforce any particular religion, it can enforce
no religion at all, so there is freedom from religion as well.

 

The US government somehow managed to interfere with bigamy practiced
by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, but the government
cannot stop Jehovah's Witnesses from knocking on your door.

The 1st amendment keeps the federal government from making any law
that favors one religion over another. There were *state* religions in
the American colonies at one time, though. The state churches were
able to tax citizens of the state.

The 14th amendment keeps the states from making or enforcing any law
that violates the civil rights of people living in the USA.

Xenu is not bothering you, except that the idea offends you. The US
government will not get involved, because Americans are free to
believe whatever they want.

If CO$ complains about you violating some state or federal law and you
are arrested by law enforcement authorities or sued by CO$, you can
appeal the matter all the way to SCOTUS on the basis that your civil
rights were violated by the government. Good luck.

The atheist who was annoyed that his daughter was being somehow
oppressed by the phrase "under God" in the pledge of allegiance
finally lost his case because he wasn't married to the girl's mother,
and didn't have custody of her.

 

That shit don't float.

1st amendment says that the US government will not get involved in
theological issues, members of both religions are free to believe
whatever they wish, however
ridiculous.

But, the 14th amendment keeps the states from making or enforcing laws
that violate the civil rights of the people.

If members of church A violate the civil rights of church B, and the
local police make an arrest, the accused can appeal his case all the
way to SCOTUS, regardless of how ridiculous or unpopular the theology
of his/her church may seem.

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868.

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of
the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law
which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any
person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Exactly what has CO$ done that has violated your civil rights, besides
publish pictures of you and libel you?

Have they caused you to be arrested or have they sued you over and
over or sworn out numerous criminal complaints against you?

There is a crime on the books called "barratry" which you might want
to look up...

 

No, the idea of Xenu doesn't offend me. Sorry. My issues are not with
Scientology beliefs, but the actions of the organization. For some
reason, I have a hard time parsing fraud, stalking, intimidation as
religious practices. Same with calling in fake bomb threats and having
my bike towed while posing as a restaurant manager. These are minor
incidents compared with what other people have been subjected to.

Yeah, that worked out pretty well for Keith Henson. Not.

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