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    Hector Guest

    I notice that you are so idiotic that you could not even find a football
    group to post your garbage in.
     
    Hector, Jun 29, 2010
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    timbochov Guest

    Lived three years in Switzerland, many times to Germany. Highlights
    were beir unt bratwurst. Not much else. Thought Austria was better.
     
    timbochov, Jun 29, 2010
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    ian field Guest

    Who are "they"? Work stopped in Germany on using any kind of nuclear
    source as a weapon by 1943. Feel free to quote reliable sources to
    prove otherwise.

    And when you say "bringing together radioactive material sufficiently
    refined to bring about a chain reaction" what are you referring to?
    Medical waste FFS? Because they had no working reactor to produce any
    other kind of radioactive material, nor were they apparently in any
    hurry to make one. The only work in 1945 was, as I said, being done
    towards a Civil service power grid, not a weapon, and was nowhere near
    any kind of physical result. And the Military was showing little
    interest.

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    So why do you suppose they placed so much vital military importance on heavy
    water (deuterium oxide) production.

    Maybe their troops wanted something more substantial in their water canteens
    eh?
     
    ian field, Jun 29, 2010
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    ian field Guest

    That would qualify, but I suspect most potential nuclear terrorists (and the
    WW2 Nazis) would be aiming for some sort of chain reaction - it produces a
    significant radiation burst and disperses much more radioactive fallout much
    further than just conventional explosives under a pile of radioactive
    medical waste.
     
    ian field, Jun 29, 2010
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    ian field Guest

    ian field, Jun 29, 2010
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  6. It usually involves the 'conventional' army adopting guerilla
    approaches.
    Malaya.
    FFL in Indo-China.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 29, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    Erm, thats wrong. Just producing a criticality doesn't produce more
    radioactive material. OK you might neutron activate a few more atoms but
    nothing on any real scale. Nor does a criticality disperse material where,
    for instance, you have two cast slugs of uranium or plutonium.

    An ideal dirty bomb would use Pu or Uranium in a 100+ mesh powder, probably
    mixed with another bulk agent, wrapped around a high explosive core, in
    itself a shaped charge depending on the intended deployment.

    If you want to deny public access to a usefully wide area it will have to be
    an air burst or detonation from the top edge of a very high building.

    One might consider a fuel/air explosion at altitude as a very effective
    dispersal weapon, if one was so inclined.
     
    Hog, Jun 29, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    Wasn't the comment in the thread something about the Yanks never calling it
    a war?

    Did the South Vietnamese government call it a war?
     
    Hog, Jun 29, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    It was a comment by the iKike, so only worthy of being ignored.
     
    Lozzo, Jun 29, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    Sri Lanka (1) recently and Chechnya. And the **** in me HAS to say Northern
    Ireland.

    As for victory, like I said, they didn't want to win at all costs. Had they
    done so they would, like they did against, oh, say..... Japan.

    I don't believe for one moment the CIA didn't know that the USSR and PRC,
    despite the bluster of the former, didn't have the means to engage in a
    nuclear conflict.

    (1) who proved that you do it by killing every motherfucker in the room (tm)
     
    Hog, Jun 29, 2010
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    Mike Guest

    I find that hard to believe, but who cares - the only countries that
    didn't wave their flag were those not in it.
    A bit redundant, it's a bit like saying German, krauts. And the reason
    the British became called limeys was because a naval surgeon realised
    the link between scurvy and a lack of vitamin C. As a consequence the
    british sailors were in better physical condition than their enemies.
    Yes yes all very relevant, a quote from a french, a nation not adverse
    to laying down arms in the face of the enemy either.

    Hang on a minute aren't Germans those teutonic types who basically
    regarded everyone who wasn't german as sub-human and tried to wipe them
    off the planet on an industrial scale?

    If memory and google serves me correctly they also tried to 'breed' out
    non desirable characteristics amongst the germans and until recently
    where very picky about who could call themselves german.

    With that track record I'd avoid using the word 'racist' and variations
    thereof for a few more centuries at least.

    Mike
     
    Mike, Jun 29, 2010
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    Two Dogs Guest

    Work on a nuclear weapon stopped, as I said, in 1943 when the
    Norwegian Heavy Water plant was fucked up by saboteurs and bombing.
    End of story, game over, heavy water had nothing at all to do with
    production of a dirty bomb in 1945.

    Give it up.


    Two Dogs
     
    Two Dogs, Jun 29, 2010
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    Two Dogs Guest

    Not mention, of course, that there was no radioactive medical waste
    in 1945......but you knew that

    Two Dawgs
     
    Two Dogs, Jun 29, 2010
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    timbochov Guest

    Verpiss dich, pimmel-kopf.
     
    timbochov, Jun 29, 2010
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    ian field Guest

    Work on a nuclear weapon stopped, as I said, in 1943 when the
    Norwegian Heavy Water plant was fucked up by saboteurs and bombing.
    End of story, game over, heavy water had nothing at all to do with
    production of a dirty bomb in 1945.

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    You really don't have a clue.

    Heavy water production was moved to germany after the Norwegian resistance
    sabotaged the Norsk Hydro Plant.

    The NR got another bite at the cherry when the Germans moved remaining heavy
    water stocks across the lake - they set explosives on the ferry and sank it
    at the deepest point.

    The Nazi's would have been happy with any nuke they could get, but having
    exterminated all their Jewish scientists they probably didn't have the means
    to produce anything better than a crude dirty device - and as the allies
    discovered they were still some way off of that.
     
    ian field, Jun 29, 2010
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    ian field Guest

    Not mention, of course, that there was no radioactive medical waste
    in 1945......but you knew that

    Two Dawg


    Of course not - radiation didn't exist until the Americans invented it.
     
    ian field, Jun 29, 2010
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    SIRPip Guest

    That's fucking rich.

    You can't post properly, you've never heard of snipping, you feed
    trolls - do I need to go on?

    You are an imbecile.
     
    SIRPip, Jun 29, 2010
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    ian field Guest

    "des in all probability sticking around for another two months"

    The Russians certainly paid the highest price for the defeat of Naziism, but
    their commander in chief was well known for making bad descisions, mainly
    throwing in sheer numbers of mass suicide squads to numerically overwhelm
    the enemy.

    On the ground their winterised weapons were better and more reliable than
    the over engineered German equipment.

    In the air, performance was reduced by shoddy finish on the aircraft (one or
    two officials got arrested and charged with sabotage because of it). Bad
    tactics again caused heavy losses along with the high command's refusal to
    learn from the experience of front line pilots.
     
    ian field, Jun 29, 2010
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    ian field Guest

    Who are "they"? Work stopped in Germany on using any kind of nuclear
    source as a weapon by 1943. Feel free to quote reliable sources to
    prove otherwise.

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    The Germans were definately up to something right up to the end of the war.

    At the time of the German surrender a U-boat was intercepted on its way to
    Japan - apparently there were a few cases of U235 in the cargo.
     
    ian field, Jun 29, 2010
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  20. Seeing as the Grammar Police have been called in, have you ever considered
    putting a question mark at the end of your questions?

    <snip>

    Andrew
     
    Andrew Dunford, Jun 29, 2010
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