I only had to google one (the most important) word of that, so my brief Italian language immersion course was obviously fairly successful. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
With the pound sterling dropping like a stone against most other currencies and credit default swap rates on long-term UK sovereign debt beginning to edge up, with an industrial production like in the twenties and with a private and public debt that is now 449 per cent of GDP........ it is a good time to mention the war :-D
Judgement day? Nah, that Palestinian jewish disident (and his father and the bird by a magic TRIck) spoke "arameo" AFAIR. This has been a post of kafflick humour, mind.
For those among us who are over forty, language teaching in french schools was crap at best, and inexistent usually. It was even worse when you get technical teaching to work as spanner monkey, cook, sparkie or any technical job: you generally got english lessons 2 hours a week, from 11 to 13 years old. How could you expect them to get any proficiency?
I have to say this is not my experience. Of course, round our way folk are more used to languages, given that for many of the locals French isn't actually their first language, but when we have non- or limited-french speaking visitors they never seem to encounter such issues.
That'd be marginally better than British schools then. Question of need as well I suppose. If you generally take domestic holidays, only partake of French TV and films and don't do much business with foreign companies then there is not really much need to learn another lingo. I noticed a change though about 10-12 years ago when internet really took off, the number of enthousiastic English speakers increased noticeably, especially amongst the younger generation. Once, a few years ago I got stuck in a small town in Southern France with a wide load. After a while two gendarmes turned up (male and female); sensing that my limited French might make things a little awkward to explain, I tentatively enquired of the policewoman if she spoke English. Well, judging by the look she gave me you'd have thought I was asking if she fancied a quick one behind the war monument. Logical really I suppose, struggling with a foreign language usually entails a degree of face-loss and she was quite happy for me to assume that role. Must have said the right thing mind, they held the traffic up for me and allowed me to depart with nothing more than a toot and a wave.
See reply to Des. I don't expect universal or even widespread proficiency. It is however, my experience, that some of those that can actually speak quite good English (as you suggest mainly the younger generation) sometimes won't, even when it might be to their advantage. As I've said before on here, it can depend on how much of an effort we English make to conduct a conversation in the language of the country. I try my best, but sometimes I get the feeling that I am left to flounder when the other person could probably have translated the odd word to help, if they wanted to. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
Nah, military types, they have the sexuality clinically removed early on in the training (either that or its something in the tea).
There are thicks bastards everywhere, but I would not credit to unwillingness what is often lack of knowledge. Most of my relatives are teachers (elementary to university) and seems to understand just a few words in english. None can follow a simple conversation neither read any newspaper or book. The only one that could are those that have some retired english friends (living in Périgord).
Yes, the need to exchange with their friends made them overcome their inadequate education. Being teachers, the education they received was considered above average for their generation (born 1930-1950). Most of my mates who were raised in farms in Dordogne or Lot-et-Garonne can't speak english or german even under torture, don't need to forcefeed fat ducks or make goat cheese.
Not to worry, I've now come up with an excuse that fits all circumstances and situations. It was performance art.