German reliability, eh?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Wik, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. Wik

    Wik Guest

    Fucking stroll on. Today, the gearbox in the GS died after a paltry 2415
    total miles since new back in December.

    Recovered by BMW to the dealership and I now have the pleasure of riding
    around...

































    ....in a fucking Ford Focus.
    :-(((
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Feb 25, 2004
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  2. Wik

    Cane Guest

    aaahahahahahahahaha.... I bet it looks like a toy with you in it.
     
    Cane, Feb 25, 2004
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  3. Wik

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Wik was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    You're not the first, and you probably won't be the last one, either...
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 25, 2004
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  4. Good grief - that's awful. The gearboxes are definitely agricultural -
    at least from the noises they make. The one on my GS has certainly got
    rougher over time but at least I haven't had a catastrophe.

    Hope it gets sorted soonest.
     
    Paul Corfield, Feb 25, 2004
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  5. Wik

    Kiran Guest

    Depending on seriousness of fault, reject it immediately and demand a new
    one, not repairs.
     
    Kiran, Feb 25, 2004
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  6. Wik

    Catman Guest

    Wik wrote:

    No loaner form them either? Is it just me thinking that's un-reasonable?
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    Catman, Feb 25, 2004
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  7. Wik

    Wik Guest

    What, a whole new bike?

    Blimey...
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Feb 25, 2004
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  8. Wik

    Wik Guest

    Well, that's just it; the c*r is via BMW as part of the BMW assist
    programme.

    I did ask for a bike, but the dealership reckoned they hadn't got one and
    steered me toward taking the c*r from BMW UK.

    Should they not fix it within 48hrs, the dealership get to pay for the
    loan c*r.
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Feb 25, 2004
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  9. Wik

    Wik Guest

    Saw your earlier post just now; must be the day for it.
    :-(
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Feb 25, 2004
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  10. Wik

    Catman Guest

    hmmm, nice, but odd really.
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    Catman, Feb 25, 2004
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  11. Wik

    Kiran Guest

    Yes, why not. Sale of Goods Act etc blah which I don't need to repeat
    here. But this could be the first of many *repairs* or it could be a one
    off. Thing is, if someone has a lemon, by the time they realise it, its
    often too late as they've agreed to previous repairs wheras they should
    reject it asap. If its entire gearbox failure at that mileage, I'd deffo
    go for the new bike thang. Of course it depends on the dealer,
    inconvenience etc etc. Really a matter for you.

    If you decide to have it repaired, reject it in writing, but then say you
    will accept repairs but only if the repairs are carried out without
    prejudice to your rejection. That way, if there's another serious problem
    down the line, you can still opt to reject it and won't have waived your
    rights away.
     
    Kiran, Feb 25, 2004
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  12. Wik

    TW Guest

    TW, Feb 25, 2004
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  13. Wik

    Wik Guest

    Well, yes and I'd been telling myself the same thing...

    Mmm, mine's been getting noisier, also. However, I've also been playing
    "hunt first gear" for the last couple of weeks upon first starting and an
    occasional episode of not being able to change down without a spot of
    bother.

    This morning, having scraped the ice off the seat, I initially put its not
    wishing to engage first gear down to it having sat for nearly a week due
    to work commitments requiring me to be in the c*r or take the train
    combined with the aforementioned freezing weather.

    I assumed that it would resolve itself once warm.

    It didn't. It got worse.

    I found I could only get 2nd and 3rd and had already made the decision to
    do the M25 in 3rd at 60mph and ~5500rpm.

    Once I got on the M4, I managed to hook fourth and then fifth and sixth,
    finding that I could happily toggle between the two on the motorway.

    Of course, I then discovered on leaving the m-way that I couldn't get
    anything below 5th, which made the last 7 or 8 miles on A and B roads, er,
    interesting.

    I finally pulled into our works parking lot accompanied by the smell of
    frying clutch...

    BMW were summoned and after a load of shenanigans, it was recovered and
    packed off to Vines in Guildford.
    Cheers, matey.
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Feb 25, 2004
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  14. Wik

    Wik Guest

    Arr... It's best described as "transport".
    :-/
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Feb 25, 2004
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  15. Wik

    wessie Guest

    My gearbox seemed very rough at 10k when I bought the bike. I would get a
    blister on my foot after a long journey.

    At 23k, now, it seems quite smooth. The 2500 mile round trip to Italy and
    back in 10 days was fine. No blisters. Not sure if it has got smoother or
    it's me that has adapted to its idiosynchrasies.
     
    wessie, Feb 25, 2004
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  16. Wik

    Big Tony Guest

    Sorry to hear about that mate. You'd have thought that if they had to give
    you a cage rather than another bike they'd at least of made it a beemer.
     
    Big Tony, Feb 26, 2004
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  17. In uk.rec.motorcycles, wessie said:
    I used to despatch on a R850R. Fucking horrible it was. In the end I was
    changing up using my boot rather than my toe IFKWIM and it didn't get
    any smoother until I got rid of it at 55,000 miles
     
    Whinging Courier, Feb 26, 2004
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  18. I would, yes.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 26, 2004
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  19. Wik

    Wik Guest

    Umm, no, not really. As Catman says, nice gesture an' all that, but not
    quite the same thing, is it? Besides, I was all Goretex'd-up and whatnot
    and wasn't the least bit chilly yesterday morning.

    Besides which, it now means my "office" suit and my "out and about suit"
    are now here at home. And, have you ever tried carrying Wik-sized
    motorcycle gear out to a car on your own?
    :)
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Feb 26, 2004
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  20. Wik

    Wik Guest

    Mmm, I (naively) thought the same thing and jokingly said to the man on
    the end of the 'phone "Of course, a new M3 would be nice" to which the BMW
    Assist guy sat next to me at the time -- pleasant chap named Paul -- said
    "More likely to be a fucking Astra".

    It does actually get better; better if you, like me, enjoy schadenfreuder.

    Once Paul had been and diagnosed it -- "Yep, that's fucked" -- he called
    BMW Assist to organise recovery and the aforementioned hire vehicle.

    I'll not go into the blow by blow account of what happened next (sorry for
    that, Suze!) but save to say it wasn't recovered within the hour 'cause
    "they needed three guys to get it on the wagon" [*boggle*] and the poor
    bloke from Enterprise rent-a-shed who, whilst very professional and
    positive in his approach, had the Vectra he was delivering to me break
    down somewhere between Luton and Hatfield...

    I then had the pleasure of sitting in a crappy little tin box for two and
    a bit hours crawling around the M25...
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    | Wik -UKRMHRC#10- 2003 R1150GSA -DC#1 -'FOT#0 'FOF #39 - BOD#12 BOB#12
    |# You don't believe me | "Experience is the worst teacher.
    |That the scenery | It always gives the test first
    |Could be a cold-blooded killer. | and the instruction afterward."
    ***** human response from wik at blueyonder dot co dot uk *****
     
    Wik, Feb 26, 2004
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