[QUOTE] not an English word.[/QUOTE] That was then and this is now. [QUOTE] Happy to have cleared things up for you.[/QUOTE] Yebbut you now need to learn this bit:- When we take a word into English it becomes Ours, not yours, or theirs, or anybody else's but OURS and as such we have the right to treat it how we fucking well choose and if we add a rule set to it that is not the accepted norm that is just fucking hard luck because the word is OURS now and that makes it English and we certainly shan't be accepting any advice from fucking foreigners, traitors especially, on how to manage our own affairs in our native tongue. Thankyou for you attention and patience you may now fuck off and be wrong elsewhere.