[QUOTE="ogden"] Sure, if you want to use the Lloyds TSB trademark rather than the generic term.[/QUOTE] Yep, still use hoover too Its the T I would object to in ATM, cashier would be the normal term in the UK I would have thought. Cash machine anybody? Anyway, my original point was that as soon as a word gets borrowed by a language then it is perfectly legitimate to use the plural form customary in that language, so, writing in English on an English language forum then autobahns is a better choice than autobahnen. Same with pronunciation IMO. When speaking English then VW cars are Volkswagens or Vee Dub and not Folksvargen or Fow Vay (if you can see through my virtual spelling). It all started with Angela Rippon and her nightly (different) renditions of Buenos Aires if you ask me. Long live Anglicised spelling and pronunciation YKIMS.