Occasionally when decelerating quite hard down the box on the Trophy it chucks a wobbly and loses third gear. I'm almost used to it happening now so look out for it and change back into gear as it happens. Problem is it's annoying when you *really* need that downshift. So, any suggestions as to probable cause? I reckon dodgy detents in the selectors. -- -- Robbo Trophy 1200 1998 BotaFOF #19. E.O.S.M 2001/2002/2003/2004. B.O.S.M 2003, 2004 FURSWB#1 KotL..YTC449 PM#7 ..
Occasionally when decelerating quite hard down the box on the Trophy it Which? or all 3 -- -- Robbo Trophy 1200 1998 BotaFOF #19. E.O.S.M 2001/2002/2003/2004. B.O.S.M 2003, 2004 FURSWB#1 KotL..YTC449 PM#7 ..
My money would be on forks or possibly dogs, though IME it's usually the other side (the drive side) that gets rounded. Also, the detent *ought* to affect both drive and overrun, errr, but so would a bent fork I guess. Could be a bevel gear is shifting a shaft axially slightly under reverse load, thus making a slightly iffy gear engagement worse on overrun. In that case, any of the options could still apply, plus the possibility of excessive shaft endfloat as a fourth option. The detent mechanism is at least easier to get at on some bikes. Sometimes it's behind the clutch, not in the gearbox itself, so you might not need to split the cases to find out. Same goes for endfloat on the shafts - they're all accessible one way or another.
It's fucked. Give you a tenner for it. -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)
First sign of gear changing without using the clutch enough/at all and matching the throttle/engine speed to the drive side of the box.
It's called slipping the clutch and matching the revs on the change. You have synchromesh on a car and don't worry so much or you have a non synchromesh box then you double declutch through the shift.
I get you now, bliping on the down change. I used to double declutch on the lower gear down changes on my Landy, so I know what that is. Maybe Togs clutch is dragging a bit?
Muck says... I learned to drive in Series 1 and 2 Landies with no synchro on any gears. My dad used to laugh at me double declutching his Moggy Minor when I drove it round the village aged 13 or 14.
I had a gf that could only drive an auto car. She just got confused when I double declutched the Landy. "Looks complicated" she used to say. There again, she was only a web designer.
